ZetaTalk Chat for September 30, 2025

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 78 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

[Nancy Lieder]

Where is Donald Trump? Concerns Rise as POTUS goes 'Missing from Public View' Amid Health Speculation
August 30, 2025
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/where-is-donald-t...
Several posts on X claimed that Trump had not been seen over the last day. His schedule for August 30 and 31 also does not list any public events, as per Roll Call, the Washington-based publication. This seems to have added fuel to the fire. This latest speculation, which remains unverified, comes amid ongoing concern about Donald Trump's health, especially around the persistent bruising on his hand.

SOZT
President Trump is alive and well and living outside of the public eye due to constant assassination fears. He was replaced with a Double, shorter than the real Trump, who has reduced the risk of a sudden loss of the President. President Trump’s daily signing ceremonies and spontaneous pressers has accustomed the public to the reassuring sound of his voice and commitment to his policies, so a day off is a shock. The Double is sick and needs time off to heal but there is more than one Double at hand so another is getting prepped.
EOZT

[Shaun Kazuck]

Hello:

It appears Trump is about to announce the movement of the Space Force's HQ from Colorado Springs, CO with the rest of the federal government to Huntsville, AL, site of former NASA operations.  My question is about the timing and location.  Why announce this now and why move such a seemingly vital military branch to a more dangerous area of the country given the pending New Madrid Adjustment and Pole Shift just 1-1.5 years out?

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/trump-set-reveal-new-space-force...

Thanks!

[Nancy Lieder]

I think they anticipate the need to shoot down large debris from Nibiru tail and are going for the expertise and support there in Huntsville. 

Shaun Kazuck said:

Hello:

It appears Trump is about to announce the movement of the Space Force's HQ from Colorado Springs, CO with the rest of the federal government to Huntsville, AL, site of former NASA operations.  My question is about the timing and location.  Why announce this now and why move such a seemingly vital military branch to a more dangerous area of the country given the pending New Madrid Adjustment and Pole Shift just 1-1.5 years out?

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/trump-set-reveal-new-space-force...

Thanks!

[Nancy Lieder]

Mysterious booms shaking U.S. last night. Is this a sign that the New Madrid rupture is about to happen?
[and from another]
Idaho Booms
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CWxCAFCCofA
[and from another]
Mysterious “Booms” Shaking U.S. Cities Last Night – Underground Tunnels or Incoming Event?
September 6, 2025
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message6065942/pg1
Reports are flooding in from Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania of loud unexplained booms shaking houses and setting off car alarms overnight. No earthquakes recorded. No military flight paths reported. Local news is silent.
[and from another]
Green Bay Split
October 20, 2013
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue368.htm
The tearing of Wisconsin will not wait until the Pole Shift, per the Zetas, but has already started. Green Bay developed a hum in 2008, and booms throughout Wisconsin from Clintonville through Montelo to Baraboo occurred in 2012. A crevasse appeared in the Michigan peninsula in 2010, growing to this day. Now a bridge crossing the Fox River in Green Bay has slumped, some of the footings sinking suddenly. Green Bay is ripping apart, and only the start, per the Zetas.
[and from another]
Wisconsin Stretch
April 1, 2012
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue287.htm
Per the Zetas, it is no surprise that investigators can find no reason for the noise and shaking as the truth about the nearby presence of Planet X is being suppressed. However, the USGS gave it a try, claiming that Clintonville’s nightly banging and shaking were due to a mere magnitude 1.5 earthquake that occurring on the first night.  This apparently explains why the noise and vibrations only occur at night, and continue unabated.

SOZT
The New Madrid Fault Line Rupture is the result of a stretch, where rock is violently ripped apart. The booms heard during such separations are due to vibration in rock on both sides of the separation - a sudden jerk, then a return into a new position, all the while bumping about. Stretch zone noise is assumed to be silent, and primarily this is the case, but when the rock is tightly attached and resists, such booms are often present. This occurred a decade ago in Wisconsin as the Green Bay Peninsula
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue287.htm
separation increased.

The Nibiru Coverup suppresses information about any Nibiru sightings or the composition of the Red Dust and Debris in Nibiru’s tail, which is wafting toward Earth at present. The excuses are endless, but the establishment also suppresses conversation on the Internet. Don’t report, don’t repeat, don’t publish is the rule. Eventually, this suppression gets attention so it adds to the mountain of truth available to the common man. This is why President Trump is rushing to invoke official Martial Law in the US. At present this is claimed to be a cleanup of crime, but it is Martial Law on the creep.
EOZT

[Shaun Kazuck]

Hello:

Nepal has descended into chaos following a social media ban.  The riots, perpetrated mainly by Gen Z, continued after they restored social media to fight government corruption.  My question is, is this related to their place on the Eurasian side of the brake plate or just general unrest like many places are facing?  I imagine the massive quake nearby last week that they said was only a 6 was far greater given the death toll.  Perhaps things are getting unsafe there?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nepal-descends-chaos-after-s...

Thanks!

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. but you wil find a good treatment in ZTF re this matter also 

https://x.com/ZT_Followers/status/1965462995590676681

Shaun Kazuck said:

Hello:

Nepal has descended into chaos following a social media ban. 

[Nancy Lieder]

And Many others all over this net and social media.. the Muslims are attempting to take over this planet. In TX, they are giving orders to store owners about what they can sell, when they can sell it and so forth.. They claim that if the store owners don’t cooperate they will march in the streets and protest to get what they want and that is only the beginning. In the UK they have taken over the country in government, schools and so forth. The women never work and the men are not working so all of them are on government care. This is EVIL and pushy. Is this movement part of the transformation or is there another agenda in the works?
[and from another]
https://t.me/StormIsUponUsJM/13350
???? USA: Islamic scholar Uthman Farooq say in America:
Your nightmare of an Islamic Europe will come true.
You can be as mad as you want, there’s nothing you can do.
America and Russia will also become Muslim countries.
We are the change, and we are unapologetic and uncompromising!
@StormIsUponUsJM
[and from another]
Grok:
The Inquisition was a formal judicial investigation or tribunal, particularly by the Catholic Church, established to root out and punish heresy, or religious beliefs differing from the Church's official teachings. It is most infamous for the Spanish Inquisition, initiated in the 15th century, which targeted perceived heretics and non-Christians, employing harsh methods like torture and resulting in executions and widespread persecution. While the Medieval Inquisition focused on Cathars and Waldensians, the Spanish and Portuguese Inquisitions were particularly brutal in their pursuit of Converso Jews and Moriscos. 
[and from another]
Inquisition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
The Inquisition was a Catholic judicial procedure in which ecclesiastical judges could initiate, investigate and try cases in their jurisdiction. Popularly it became the name for various medieval and reformation-era state-organized tribunals whose aim was to combat heresy, apostasy, blasphemy, witchcraft, and customs considered to be deviant, using this procedure. Violence, isolation, torture or the threat of its application, have been used by the Inquisition to extract confessions and denunciations. Inquisitions with the aim of combatting religious sedition (e.g. apostasy or heresy) had their start in the 12th-century Kingdom of France, particularly among the Cathars and the Waldensians. The inquisitorial courts from this time until the mid-15th century are together known as the Medieval Inquisition. Other banned groups investigated by medieval inquisitions, which primarily took place in France and Italy, include the Spiritual Franciscans, the Hussites, and the Beguines. Beginning in the 1250s, inquisitors were generally chosen from members of the Dominican Order, replacing the earlier practice of using local clergy as judges.

SOZT
The major religions of the world were all established with a message of love but soon the opportunistic Service-to-Self quickly assumed control and twisted the message.
https://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m60.htm
During the Transformation process, those in the Service-to-Other are on the increase, which makes those in the Service-to-Self nervous. They become strident and hardened.
https://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t56.htm
Christianity operated in a barbaric manner during Middle Ages with the Inquisitions and burning witches at the stake.

The Muslim sects – Sunni and Shea
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue480.htm
– battle with each other just as Catholic and Lutheran sects within the Christian religion battle with each other. The goal is influence and funds. It will be times when the hierarchy of a religion feels threatened that these battles will emerge, and due to the Africa Roll and Israeli press for Greater Israel many Muslims feel threatened. They have pressed into politics in the UK and now even the US, and have no plans to retreat.
EOZT

Prior 2/15/2000 ZT:
https://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m60.htm
Religions take two paths. They are primarily influenced, when they are influenced, by benevolent entities from higher densities who wish to explain a message of love - the message of Jesus, the simple Golden Rule, to do unto others as you would have them do unto you, etc. These messages are meant to teach democratic concepts - how to get along with one another and be accepting of differences and the like. Because religion has an element of adoration, humans tend, as all 3rd Density cultures do, to look as children toward the messenger and say “Ah, we have gotten this from a wise parent”. Because of this, those who would rule humans and be despots try to slip behind and assume the robes of the religious community and become what we have termed the religious elite. All religions have to some degree, and some to a great degree, assumed the nature of laying down the rules and the laws. Forget about being concerned or empathic to your neighbor. Where is your money? Where is your obedience to the rules? Where is your fear? The message thus twists and turns. The major religions on the Earth - those formed by Mohammed, Buddha, and Jesus - were influenced by Star Children who came down with the right message, but they have been twisted to some degree or another. 

Prior Polarization 12/15/1996 ZT: 
https://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t56.htm
During the Transformation, gradual polarization of the two spiritual orientations occurs, so that Service-to-Other groups emerge and grow in numbers while Service-to-Self groups harden and become more intense in their power trips.

[Nancy Lieder]

Nepal has descended into chaos following a social media ban.  The riots, perpetrated mainly by Gen Z, continued after they restored social media to fight government corruption.  My question is, is this related to their place on the Eurasian side of the brake plate or just general unrest like many places are facing?  I imagine the massive quake nearby last week that they said was only a 6 was far greater given the death toll.  Perhaps things are getting unsafe there?
[and from another]
Nepal Descends into Chaos After Social Media Ban, PM Resigns, Finance Minister Dragged Through Street
September 9, 2025
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nepal-descends-chaos-after-s...
Chaos has descended on Nepal amid raging mass protests against a short-lived ban on social media, and accusations of widespread government corruption. The small Himalayan country has descended into hellish conditions in less than a mere 48 hours of raging anti-government demonstrations. The protests appear mostly led by the young, after several popular social media sites were blocked and clashes with police led to authorities firing on crowds, resulting in 19 people dead. But even after the social media ban was lifted amid the pressure and mayhem, demonstrators set fire to the homes of top Nepalese leaders and even parliament buildings. 
[and from another]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whEykS_-8XE
[and from another]
8 of 10 Expectations
August 11, 2013
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue358.htm
Sociological changes will be a big factor during the 8 of 10 phase. Migrations will intensify. Rioting in desperation and anger will be on the increase. Growth of the barter system will occur to replace traditional retail and banking markets. Treaties will be broken. And the rise of survival camps will emerge.
[and from another]
8 of 10 Emerges
August 18, 2024
https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue936.htm
Per the Zetas, rioting requiring Military assistance are 8 of 10 phase issues they warned about when describing the steps and stages that would occur for Earth prior to the Pole Shift. We are still completing the 7 of 10, which was Plate Movements, but the 8 of 10 is overlapping and has already started. Primarily sociological, the migrations and rioting that are ongoing exactly fit the ZetaTalk predictions. The opportunistic elite hope to utilize the restless migrants.

SOZT
We predicted the 8 of 10 phase to be focused on social unrest. In addition to the shortage and cost of food and the need to escape flooding, the resentment that the lower classes have against the ruling classes will become extreme. Even with the establishment keeping a lock on any Nibiru admission, the common man is getting the truth from their alien visitors as more than the majority of humans are now contactees. Eyes open, any attempt to limit truth on social media will enrage those in the know.

The elite have long been in the know about the pending passage of Nibiru, and smugly arranged for their safety inside well stocked enclaves. They assumed they could control the masses, and outlive them, thus remaining on top of the pile in the Aftertime. The reality is that the awakening masses will not cooperate, will overrun the enclaves and distribute the supplies of the elite. New leadership will emerge, from natural leaders. We have long predicted this outcome.
EOZT

Prior 2/2/2013 ZT: 
https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/02fe2013.htm
But the major 8 of 10 scenarios will be sociological, with riots and rebellion on the increase as food shortages increase and people realize the impact the Pole Shift will have on their lives. Families will be ripped apart by argument as those in denial refuse to budge and those determined to survive set their plans. Migration of desperate peoples affecting every country in some way will occur in the extreme, dominating the UN agenda and slamming borders shut. There is room on the planet to shelter all, though most may starve eventually due to food shortages. All this is the spiritual opportunity provided by the time of the passage, on Planet Earth.