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June 8, 2013 ZetaTalk
This long-exposure capture shows the increased wobble in an undeniable and dramatic manner. In 2007 the wobble was detectible only by a skew in what would otherwise be a perfect circle around Polaris. By March 23, 2010 and April 17, 2010 this skew had gotten wider, making an oval rather than a circle around Polaris. Are the cameras on a drunken pedestal? The establishment falls silent in the face of such evidence, hoping the public does not notice. Now on March 1, 2013 there is a new development. The center of the focus is in two places, not just one!
February 5, 2011 ZetaTalk
As has been present since the wobble ensued in 2004, the Earth wobble takes the form of a figure 8. This causes the N Pole of Earth to lean to one side or the other during the figure 8, and also to lean toward and away from the Sun during the figure 8. The wobble is most violent when the magnetic N Pole of Earth comes up over the horizon and encounters the magnetic push from the N Pole of Planet X, which is increasingly pointing its N Pole directly at the Earth. This point is equivalent to what Nancy calls the New Zealand view, and is directly related to the sloshing magma pushing to the north Pacific and thence sloshing back to raise the Indo-Australian Plate up on the eastern end so that Indonesia can slide under the curve. At the point in the wobble where the mid-day Sun is over Italy, the N Pole of Earth is leaning toward the Sun, which is why the Sun recently appeared two days early in Greenland and Norway and Alaska. This then progresses to be the point where, in Nancy's diagrams, the Sun is over the N American continent. At this point, the N Pole of Earth is moving away from the Sun again, and thus the vertical jet stream over N America, pushing the globe under the cold air of northern Canada. Depending upon where the globe is being pushed, or how much Sun it is getting, or how violent the push is at this or that point, the land underneath will experience weather extremes.
Nancy Lieder
Ms. Sakamaki has provided her sunrise readings for November, 2016.
Dec 7, 2016
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki has provided her December 2016 sunrise readings.
Jan 5, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms. Sakamaki has provided her January, 2017 sunrise readings. She says :
Feb 1, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki has provided her February, 2017 sunrise readings. She says :
Since 20th, Feb, the wobble pattern become calm, and is still calm early in March.
(3/2/2017 time forecast 6:34, time real 6:44, difference 10,
azimuth forecast 99.4, azimuth real 89, difference 10.4,
3/3/2017 time forecast 6:32, time real 6:41, difference 9 ,
azimuth forecast 98.8, azimuth real 89, difference 9.8)
I don't know why.
Mar 3, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms. Sakamaik sends her montly sunrise readings, and comments.
I send you the sunrise wobble pattern in March.
On April 1st. this site (http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php), where I pick up the data, was down and couldn't link.
I'm happy because this new site is more precise.
I'll check the data from last August to February 2017 in this site, because the records has been so calm after the last August when had so big difference.
On April 2nd, the sunrise forecast time is 6:30, and the real time is 6:53.
Apr 3, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Report via email from Germany. Wobble has gotten extreme!
Sun over central Europe these days:
4/15/2017 at 11:45 am.
Expected Alt 47, Latitude 141.
Found Alt 80 Latitude 160.
Setting too high and too far West.
This is accompanied by very low nightly temperatures (somtimes down to freezing) and hot, summer-like afternoons.
Apr 16, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her April readings.
May 1, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her May readings. You can really see the effect of the Polar Push here, the sunrise in Wisconsin half an hour late for the solid month.
Jun 6, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Me Sakamaki sends her June readings. The wobble has gotten worse! She says: "This is the Sunrise wobble pattern in June 2017.The time differences are always over 30 minutes, and 17th, 23rd and 27th are over 40 minutes."
Jul 5, 2017
Nancy Lieder
The Earth wobble is causing twilight in the US and in Europe to last well past midnight. This was documented in the June 25 Newsletter (http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue560.htm) and also in this video from Germany posted on June 1, 2017.
https://youtu.be/BoGk3o4VyJ4
Jul 5, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her July sunrise readings. VERY late sunrise, again, as it was last month.
Aug 7, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her August readings. Sunrise still running VERY late due to the wobble.
Sep 3, 2017
Nancy Lieder
ToeKneeTogo via email gave me a couple links to check. He had noted that the upper atmosphere clouds moved in ONE direction, while the lower ground hugging clouds in ANOTHER direction. This jumps right out in the videos. During the wobble, the air close to the ground will drag along with the globe, while the upper atmosphere will reflect where the globe was BEFORE the wobble push.
This is the original video link directly to the Canada/France Hawaii Telescope if you think it's worth posting http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/en/gallery/cloudcams/index1.php?opts=mov...
And this is the other direct video link from August 6th 2017
http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/en/gallery/cloudcams/index1.php?opts=mov...
Oct 2, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her September readings. Sunrise continues WAY off from predicted.
Oct 4, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her October readings. I note that the wobble has become ... wobbly! Irregular.
Nov 1, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her November readings. The wobble continues irregular. Several people have told me that they saw the Moon linger in the sky at one point, then rush along. Or sunset too soon or delayed, that sort of thing. It is becoming more obvious to many.
Dec 3, 2017
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her December, 2017 sunrise readings. She says "Compared with the first half in December, the second half was calm."
Jan 1, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Me Sakamaki sends her January, 2018 sunrise readings. Consistently late sunrise here in Wisconsin.
Feb 2, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Ms. Sakamaki sends her February, 2018 sunrise readings. Wobble worsening! Look at those differences.
Mar 3, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Ms. Sakamaki sends her March sunrise readings. Big correction mid-March!
Apr 4, 2018
SongStar101
Slow-Motion Ocean: Atlantic’s Circulation Is Weakest in 1,600 Years
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/slow-motion-ocean-atlant...
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In recent years sensors stationed across the North Atlantic have picked up a potentially concerning signal: The grand northward progression of water along North America that moves heat from the tropics toward the Arctic has been sluggish. If that languidness continues and deepens, it could usher in drastic changes in sea level and weather around the ocean basin.
That northward flow is a key part of the larger circulation of water, heat and nutrients around the world’s oceans. Climate scientists have been concerned since the 1980s that rising global temperatures could throw a wrench in the conveyor belt–like system, with possibly stark climatic consequences. Sea levels could ratchet upward along the U.S. east coast, key fisheries could be devastated by spiking water temperatures and weather patterns over Europe could be altered.
Such concerns had been quelled over the last decade as climate models suggested this branch of the ocean’s circulatory system was not likely to see a rapid slowdown, which would slow any consequences. But two new studies, published Wednesday in the journal Nature, suggest the recent weakening spotted by ocean sensors is not just a short-term blip, as some had thought. Rather, it is part of a longer-term decline that has put the circulation at its weakest state in centuries. The results imply climate models are missing key pieces of the puzzle, and that ill effects could be on their way.
Which pieces might be missing, though, could determine how worrying this trend is. If models are not sensitive enough to the changes going on in the North Atlantic, “that sort of puts the warning flag a little higher,” says Thomas Delworth, an ocean and climate modeler at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration who was not involved in the research.
Running AMOC
The warm, salty waters of the tropical Atlantic cruise northward along the eastern U.S. before darting toward northwestern Europe (giving the British Isles a climate far balmier than Newfoundland at a similar latitude). As that segment of ocean flow, known as the Gulf Stream, pushes north, it cools and becomes denser and eventually sinks, forming the so-called deepwater that flows back southward along the ocean floor toward Antarctica.
This cycle, called the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), plays a key role in moving heat around the planet as well as nutrients throughout the ocean. It also helps draw carbon dioxide from the atmosphere into the sea. In the Pacific Ocean equatorial heat is transported north and south toward both poles. But in the Atlantic “the heat is moving northward throughout the whole Atlantic Ocean,” says David Thornalley, a paleo-oceanographer at University College London and co-author of one of the new studies. The resulting heat imbalance between the Northern and Southern hemispheres determines several large climatic features, such as the latitude at which a key tropical rain belt is located, which impacts water supplies, precipitation for agriculture and the health of tropical ecosystems.
As global temperatures rise with the levels of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, the AMOC could be disrupted by an influx of freshwater from increasing precipitation in the North Atlantic and the melting of sea ice and glaciers on land. The added freshwater lowers the water density in the zone where deepwater forms, backing up and weakening the overall flow of the AMOC like a clogged sink. That slowdown means less heat is transported northward, leading to cooler ocean temperatures in a region below Greenland, and warmer temperatures off the U.S. east coast. That warming leads to higher sea levels along the coast and raises sea temperatures where economically valuable cold-loving species like cod and lobster live.
There are some indications the cold spot below Greenland can alter atmospheric patterns in a way that channels warm air over Europe, increasing the likelihood of sustained summer heat waves, says Levke Caesar, a PhD student at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) and co-author of the other new study. The changing ocean temperatures from an AMOC slowdown could also potentially help lock in colder winter conditions over the eastern U.S., PIK’s Stefan Rahmstorf, a co-author of the same research, has posited, although the evidence there is not clear.
Until a little more than 10 years ago scientists did not have any direct measurements of the AMOC to see how it was actually responding to climate change. The deployment of the RAPID array of instruments (short for the U.K and U.S.–sponsored Rapid Climate Change program) across the Atlantic Basin has allowed that data to slowly trickle in, and “they’ve been revealing it is undergoing weakening,” Thornalley says. But the brief window of data offers no longer-term perspective. When that first data came in, scientists thought the weakening could be a temporary change resulting from the natural ups and downs of the climate, but were aware it could be part of a much longer decline.
Clues from the Past
To help resolve the uncertainty, the teams involved with the new studies turned to what are called paleoclimate markers, which capture past changes in Earth’s climate to see how these recent changes fit in. Thornalley and his colleagues used sediment cores collected from the ocean floor along the U.S. east coast to reveal how deep ocean currents linked to the AMOC have changed over time; stronger currents deposit larger grains of sediment. They also looked at tiny creatures fossilized in sediment cores—some of which had thrived in colder conditions, others in warmer ones—to see how ocean temperatures changed as the AMOC waxed and waned in strength. Caesar and Rahmstorf’s study used direct measurements of ocean temperatures going back to the late 19th century.
The two studies came to broadly similar conclusions: The AMOC is in a very weakened state—the most anemic it has been in the last 1,600 years, according to Thornalley’s results.
The studies differ on the timing of when that weakening began. Thornalley’s record, which spans those 1,600 years, suggests it started at the end of the little ice age, a period from about A.D. 1350 to 1850, when solar and volcanic influences depressed temperatures across the Northern Hemisphere and glaciers and ice sheets expanded. As the little ice age ended and temperatures warmed, ice melted and freshwater flooded into the North Atlantic. The results suggest the current state of the AMOC is the weakest it has been over that whole long record. Whether today’s state is just a continuation of that reaction or whether global warming has also started to chip in is not clear, he says. Caesar, meanwhile, put the turning point toward a weaker AMOC in the mid-20th century, suggesting it is due to the influence of human-caused warming. Her team’s record, however, does not extend as far back.
The two results are not mutually exclusive. Both records show broadly similar patterns in decline. “We think it’s quite remarkable that all the evidence is converging,” Thornalley says. But pinpointing the timing of the weakening trend would give better clues as to what is driving it as well as how quickly it is happening and how rapidly we might expect to see some of the resulting climate impacts.
Already, Thornalley says, it is clear the Gulf of Maine has its warmest temperatures in the last 1,600 years. There are also “tantalizing glimpses” of more rapid sea level rise along the U.S., he says.
The researchers are curious why climate models seem to be missing something in the AMOC process. They do not capture this past behavior and significant weakening. If the results of these studies bear out, Delworth says, it is possible the models are not sensitive enough to the changes in ocean freshwater that are happening or they are not factoring in all of the important changes that have impacted the circulation. A 2017 study that looked at what would happen if climate models did factor in that melt saw it caused a sharper response from the AMOC than had otherwise been suggested.
The greater cause for concern would be if models are incorrectly capturing the sensitivity of the system, Delworth says, because it means scientist have been underestimating how quickly the AMOC might respond. “It really depends on why the models don’t match the paleo results,” he says.
While modelers work to figure that out, Thornalley and others are trying to expand the paleoclimate record to see if the pattern they found shows up at other sites throughout the Atlantic and if they can extend it farther back in time. They are also looking for signs of how much freshwater may have triggered the weakening at the end of the little ice age.
Moving forward, the RAPID instruments will slowly help tease out the AMOC’s behavior. “It’s just that we have to wait a couple of years,” Caesar says, by which time some impacts may already be happening.
Apr 25, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her April, 2018 readings, both Sunrise and Sunset! The wobble is different at both time. At Sunrise, the globe is leaning left and dropping into the bounce back position. At Sunset, the globe is in the Polar Push, up over the northern horizon. Different views, thus, to be expected.
May 2, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her May, 2018 sunrise readings. The last week of May really got extreme. Seems to me that Alberto's photos showed an extreme lean at times those days too.
Jun 3, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Sun is way too far North and high in the sky in Wisconsin at 6:22 am.
Sun is a full 25 deg too far North! Should be Az 75, is Az 50.
And too high in the sky. Should be Alt 10, is Alt 30.
Holy cow!
Jun 13, 2018
Nancy Lieder
For June, an extreme wobble month, Ms Sakamaki took Sunrise and Sunset and MidDay readings! All are extreme.
Jul 3, 2018
Willa Rawlings
Anyone else seeing a pattern of late afternoon High Winds and a Thunder Storm?
I'm in Ohio---- am wondering whether this is more of a Wobble Effect, that simple weather pattern. ?
Jul 3, 2018
Willa Rawlings
Forgot to add that it is blowing in from the South--- and not the usual West.
Jul 3, 2018
Kris H
Sun disappeared over Siberian Arctic for 2.5 hours. Supposed to be sun-up for 24 hours this time of year.
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/mystery-gets-murkier-ove...
Jul 25, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Ms. Sakamaki sends her July readings. Sunrise, Sunset, and Noonish.
Aug 1, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her August readings. Like myself, she notes an erratic wobble. I found my Noon reading of the Sun one day a couple weeks ago to be Az 135 when Skymap stated it should have been at Az 175-180. Alberto's photos likewise show Nibiru at the 7 o'clock position at times, due to the lean to the West. Then there were those odd high noon hours or darkness in Alberta and Siberia, due to a wobble dither.
Sep 2, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her September readings. The wobble is jerking around! Something changing? We shall see.
Oct 2, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her October readings.
Sunrise:
Noon:
Sunset:
Nov 1, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her November readings, which are missing for many days because of the cloudy skies.
Dec 1, 2018
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamai sends her December, 2018 readings, which are spotty because of the gloomly and overcast skies typical of Winter in Wisconsin.
Jan 3, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her January, 2019 readings.
Feb 5, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her February readings.
Feb 25, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ma Sakamaki sends her April readings.
May 1, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki, steadfast in her reporting, provides her May readings.
Jun 2, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki gives us her June readings.
Jul 1, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki provides her much awaited July readings. These were taken during the Lean to the Left and Right. The new Pattern charts. Shows sunrise steadily coming earlier, while day and sunset trending to match the expected times. The Lean to either Left or Right puts the Sun into a more temperate position, so the only other other influence is that at sunset, the Polar Push is in place, sun over the Pacific. Ms Sakamaki and Alberto confirm each other, thus!
Aug 2, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her August readings, and says "I send the table and graph Sunrise wobble pattern, Sunset wobble pattern, Daytime time wobble pattern & Daytime azimuth wobble pattern in August 2019. The azimuth doesn't seem to wobble so much, but it looks more wobbled in the Daytime azimuth difference."
Sep 3, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her September readings, say "I send tables and graphs of the Sunrise, Sunset & Daytime wobble pattern in September 2019. The Wobble in September is so extreme, so I thought that I measured wrongly."
Oct 3, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her October readings ...
Nov 2, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaik sends her November readings, which prove the wobble.
Dec 1, 2019
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her December 2019 readings ...
Jan 1, 2020
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her January readings ..
Feb 3, 2020
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her February readings. She says "I send Sunset, Sunrise and Daytime wobble pattern in February. Sunrise time wobble is no less than 15mins and Sunset azimuth wobble is more wobbly."
Mar 1, 2020
Nancy Lieder
Via email:
Apr 22, 2020
Nancy Lieder
Ms Sakamaki sends her March readings.
Apr 25, 2020
Carlos Villa
Apr 26, 2020