Electrical Power in the Aftertime - Earth Changes and the Pole Shift2024-03-28T23:33:08Zhttps://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/electrical-power-in-the?id=3863141%3ATopic%3A246236&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI haven't heard from you, her…tag:poleshift.ning.com,2022-05-15:3863141:Comment:11514642022-05-15T02:50:35.503ZCarlos Villahttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/CarlosVilla
I haven't heard from you, here is my email again<br />
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auttman@hotmail.com<br />
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Put Zetatalk as a tittle
I haven't heard from you, here is my email again<br />
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auttman@hotmail.com<br />
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Put Zetatalk as a tittle Carlos, can you message me? …tag:poleshift.ning.com,2022-05-06:3863141:Comment:11512952022-05-06T23:31:22.701ZHoward Boldthttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/HowardBoldt
<p>Carlos, can you message me? I want to ask you something apart from these topics. I don't want to disturb Nancy just to get your email address. If you accept my friend request, we can communicate here. You can also find me on Facebook.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Carlos Villa said:</cite></p>
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<p>Carlos, can you message me? I want to ask you something apart from these topics. I don't want to disturb Nancy just to get your email address. If you accept my friend request, we can communicate here. You can also find me on Facebook.<br/> <br/> <cite>Carlos Villa said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/electrical-power-in-the?xg_source=activity&id=3863141%3ATopic%3A246236&page=10#3863141Comment1151137"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">I am currently 100% off grid and I'm willing to council anyone here who needs it. My batteries have a 30+ years lifespan when discharged fully on a daily basis and have upwards of 30 000 cycles compared to 500+ for lead acid. They can charge and discharge at a rate of 10c and yes I produce power on a cloudy day. Contact Nancy and ask her for my email. I am here to help.</div>
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</blockquote> I am currently 100% off grid…tag:poleshift.ning.com,2022-04-14:3863141:Comment:11511372022-04-14T03:35:35.012ZCarlos Villahttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/CarlosVilla
I am currently 100% off grid and I'm willing to council anyone here who needs it. My batteries have a 30+ years lifespan when discharged fully on a daily basis and have upwards of 30 000 cycles compared to 500+ for lead acid. They can charge and discharge at a rate of 10c and yes I produce power on a cloudy day. Contact Nancy and ask her for my email. I am here to help.
I am currently 100% off grid and I'm willing to council anyone here who needs it. My batteries have a 30+ years lifespan when discharged fully on a daily basis and have upwards of 30 000 cycles compared to 500+ for lead acid. They can charge and discharge at a rate of 10c and yes I produce power on a cloudy day. Contact Nancy and ask her for my email. I am here to help. Good thinking, but if I under…tag:poleshift.ning.com,2022-04-13:3863141:Comment:11509142022-04-13T18:55:27.773ZLanahttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/Lana707
<p>Good thinking, but if I understood well, the specified lifecycle for batteries is only when you are using them (discharging an charging), and it depends on the depth of discharge, temperature etc. If you recharge AGM and Gel batteries once or twice a year, they can last a hundred years. We have few for more than 10 years and using them occasionally, only during the summer for watering our garden, and they still have capacity like new ones. Also, there are some cons with flooded batteries…</p>
<p>Good thinking, but if I understood well, the specified lifecycle for batteries is only when you are using them (discharging an charging), and it depends on the depth of discharge, temperature etc. If you recharge AGM and Gel batteries once or twice a year, they can last a hundred years. We have few for more than 10 years and using them occasionally, only during the summer for watering our garden, and they still have capacity like new ones. Also, there are some cons with flooded batteries like need for monthly equalization, toxic and explosive gases, sulfation of the plates. I am not saying you should not buy flooded batteries, but if you can't find them, there are better, albeit more expensive solutions. The greatest life cycle you can expect form OPZV tubular batteries but they are the most expensive and are 2V which can be a problem in some cases.</p> Yes, but my understanding is…tag:poleshift.ning.com,2022-04-13:3863141:Comment:11511342022-04-13T13:53:47.687ZHoward Boldthttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/HowardBoldt
<p>Yes, but my understanding is that AGM batteries cannot last 30 years (maybe 10 years, at most), so I need a plan for that. Storing empty lead acid batteries is the only proven concept that I know of. You can't empty and store an AGM battery indefinitely. And it seems that manufacturing will shut down now, when New Madrid events hit, and buying any type of new deep cycle batteries will likely be impossible. They will likely become completely unavailable, as people scramble and grab what…</p>
<p>Yes, but my understanding is that AGM batteries cannot last 30 years (maybe 10 years, at most), so I need a plan for that. Storing empty lead acid batteries is the only proven concept that I know of. You can't empty and store an AGM battery indefinitely. And it seems that manufacturing will shut down now, when New Madrid events hit, and buying any type of new deep cycle batteries will likely be impossible. They will likely become completely unavailable, as people scramble and grab what they can. However, we're still roughly 4-5 years from Pole Shift. If I buy AGM batteries now, they may last only 5 years into the gloom of the Aftertime. I'm hoping to run grow lights and some other things. The gloom will last until 15 - 25 years (20 - 30 years from now). Thus, it seems like a good idea to have a supply of batteries which will last for 30 years. Lithium batteries may last 20 years, but this is largely unproven. They will probably also be unavailable, shortly. Purchased now, they may take us 15 years into the Aftertime. A good distance, yes, if they prove to last that long, but not the full distance. Thus, I come back to what can be stored indefinitely. Using up lead-acid batteries consecutively seems to be the only foolproof idea. They don't last as long, but can be stored indefinitely if they are are emptied and rinsed out. The acid, if stored properly, will apparently also store indefinitely. <br/> <cite>Lana said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/electrical-power-in-the?xg_source=activity&id=3863141%3ATopic%3A246236&page=9#3863141Comment1151064"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The problem with lead-acid batteries is that they have high self-discharge rate, so it's good to keep them dry when storing them for a longer period. Quality AGM and gel batteries, if kept under cool conditions (up to 20C), have low self-discharge rate, so they can be recharged only once per year which should not be a problem. And they usually have superior cycle characteristics then flooded batteries.<br/> <br/> <cite>Howard Boldt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/electrical-power-in-the?xg_source=activity&id=3863141%3ATopic%3A246236&page=9#3863141Comment1150905"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Nancy, in the Troubled Times Survival Booklet, talks about draining the acid from deep cycle lead-acid batteries, rinsing them out with distilled water, and then storing both acid and empty batteries for indefinite periods of time, as a means of having an ongoing supply of batteries in the Aftertime. If batteries in use go bad after some years, you add acid to the empty spare batteries and away you go. New batteries. This seems like an excellent idea for an era where manufacturing of batteries (or anything), as we know it, will no longer exist.</p>
<p>However, batteries which have removable caps to access the acid have become fewer and may be more expensive. Most less-expensive deep cycle batteries are filled with acid at the factory and sealed. Is there a way to drain the acid from these?</p>
<p>Other types look like they have tops which might come off with some prying, in order to access the acid. A little experimenting will determine this, but you have to buy the battery to try.</p>
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</blockquote> The problem with lead-acid ba…tag:poleshift.ning.com,2022-04-12:3863141:Comment:11510642022-04-12T19:53:37.074ZLanahttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/Lana707
<p>The problem with lead-acid batteries is that they have high self-discharge rate, so it's good to keep them dry when storing them for a longer period. Quality AGM and gel batteries, if kept under cool conditions (up to 20C), have low self-discharge rate, so they can be recharged only once per year which should not be a problem. And they usually have superior cycle characteristics then flooded batteries.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Howard Boldt said:…</cite></p>
<p>The problem with lead-acid batteries is that they have high self-discharge rate, so it's good to keep them dry when storing them for a longer period. Quality AGM and gel batteries, if kept under cool conditions (up to 20C), have low self-discharge rate, so they can be recharged only once per year which should not be a problem. And they usually have superior cycle characteristics then flooded batteries.<br/> <br/> <cite>Howard Boldt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/electrical-power-in-the?xg_source=activity&id=3863141%3ATopic%3A246236&page=9#3863141Comment1150905"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Nancy, in the Troubled Times Survival Booklet, talks about draining the acid from deep cycle lead-acid batteries, rinsing them out with distilled water, and then storing both acid and empty batteries for indefinite periods of time, as a means of having an ongoing supply of batteries in the Aftertime. If batteries in use go bad after some years, you add acid to the empty spare batteries and away you go. New batteries. This seems like an excellent idea for an era where manufacturing of batteries (or anything), as we know it, will no longer exist.</p>
<p>However, batteries which have removable caps to access the acid have become fewer and may be more expensive. Most less-expensive deep cycle batteries are filled with acid at the factory and sealed. Is there a way to drain the acid from these?</p>
<p>Other types look like they have tops which might come off with some prying, in order to access the acid. A little experimenting will determine this, but you have to buy the battery to try.</p>
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<p>I don't have much money, so I need some recommendations for less expensive lead acid deep cycle batteries.</p>
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<p>I don't have much money, so I need some recommendations for less expensive lead acid deep cycle batteries.</p>
<p></p> For those from Canada, is the…tag:poleshift.ning.com,2022-04-12:3863141:Comment:11510632022-04-12T18:28:50.237ZHoward Boldthttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/HowardBoldt
<p>For those from Canada, is there anything wrong with Canadian Tire deep cycle batteries?</p>
<p>For those from Canada, is there anything wrong with Canadian Tire deep cycle batteries?</p> 6 volt batteries can be conne…tag:poleshift.ning.com,2022-04-12:3863141:Comment:11511282022-04-12T10:46:40.771ZHoward Boldthttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/HowardBoldt
<p>6 volt batteries can be connected in an arrangement, so as to provide 12 volts of power for use. Diagrams for this and other types of voltage increases (eg, to 24 volts) are plentiful on the internet. However, I'm wondering about how to use a 12 volt current to charge 6 volt batteries. Does the same arrangement of connections which boosted their voltage output take care of this? Or do I need a transformer to reduce the incoming 12 volt current (from and wind turbine, solar panels, etc)…</p>
<p>6 volt batteries can be connected in an arrangement, so as to provide 12 volts of power for use. Diagrams for this and other types of voltage increases (eg, to 24 volts) are plentiful on the internet. However, I'm wondering about how to use a 12 volt current to charge 6 volt batteries. Does the same arrangement of connections which boosted their voltage output take care of this? Or do I need a transformer to reduce the incoming 12 volt current (from and wind turbine, solar panels, etc) to 6 volts? </p> Nancy, in the Troubled Times…tag:poleshift.ning.com,2022-04-12:3863141:Comment:11509052022-04-12T10:38:58.595ZHoward Boldthttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/HowardBoldt
<p>Nancy, in the Troubled Times Survival Booklet, talks about draining the acid from deep cycle lead-acid batteries, rinsing them out with distilled water, and then storing both acid and empty batteries for indefinite periods of time, as a means of having an ongoing supply of batteries in the Aftertime. If batteries in use go bad after some years, you add acid to the empty spare batteries and away you go. New batteries. This seems like an excellent idea for an era where manufacturing of…</p>
<p>Nancy, in the Troubled Times Survival Booklet, talks about draining the acid from deep cycle lead-acid batteries, rinsing them out with distilled water, and then storing both acid and empty batteries for indefinite periods of time, as a means of having an ongoing supply of batteries in the Aftertime. If batteries in use go bad after some years, you add acid to the empty spare batteries and away you go. New batteries. This seems like an excellent idea for an era where manufacturing of batteries (or anything), as we know it, will no longer exist.</p>
<p>However, batteries which have removable caps to access the acid have become fewer and may be more expensive. Most less-expensive deep cycle batteries are filled with acid at the factory and sealed. Is there a way to drain the acid from these?</p>
<p>Other types look like they have tops which might come off with some prying, in order to access the acid. A little experimenting will determine this, but you have to buy the battery to try.</p>
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