Viewing of Planet X objects in SOHO and STEREO images; 2010-10 and 2011-08 (3D diagram Revised)

Where many pictures of Planet X objects found in STEREO and SOHO images were posted to this ECPS ning, mainly to the blog of "Please place your SOHO , STEREO and Magnetosphere images here!", by diligent people, the object on the image could be seen at various positions in various time. This is because not only the objects are moving but the each satellite which is equipped with an observation camera does not stand still. Thus I collected the pictures of Planet X objects which could be found for one month of 2010-10 or 2011-08 (as of 2011-08-21) in one piece of figure every kind of the image which is STEREO-A, STEREO-B and SOHO (LASCO C2 and C3) to have a look at them.


Note: Some figures of reference can't be added here, so they will be added in comment.


ZetaTalk: Green Meteors
Note: written on Jun 15, 1997. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.


All the nervous talk by the government about asteroids as we approach the millennium is not just talk. Star Wars started the theme, NASA has never dropped it, and disaster movies hammer the theme home to the public - worry about asteroids.

More than just the 12th Planet comes through on its periodic passages. The 12th Planet’s moons travel like a string of pearls behind the monster traveling planet because they have been caught in its gravitational field. And a great deal of trash has also been caught, from boulders to gravel to dust that drags long behind as the giant comet’s tail. But outside of the 12th Planet’s gravitational grip, yet influenced more by the 12th Planet than any other object, is other trash that makes the rounds with the 12th Planet. Like rogue asteroid or meteor dust, this trash could conceivably impact the Earth, as its orbit is not like the orbit of the trash in the Asteroid Belt, orbiting the Sun always a distance away from the Earth, its orbit crosses the Solar System at an angle, just as the 12th Planet itself does.

Early harbingers of this trash have begun arriving, and have announced their arrival in dramatic ways. Unlike the familiar shooting stars, these harbingers are green, not white, when they burn up in the atmosphere. Like the other signs on the increase, these harbingers will increase in numbers and be joined by other dramas in the skies, all of which will remain unexplained by the authorities.


ZetaTalk: Red Dust
Note: written during the Jan 11, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.


The red dust cloud evolved as many planets in the solar system are heavy in this element, Mars, for instance. There are portions of the Earth that exhibit a red clay soil, Australia and the Southeastern US, but this is not a native soil as much as an accumulation of deposits. During the breakup of the Asteroid Belt, many planets that had this element, heavily, were pelted to pieces. Molten lava spewed into space became the asteroids. Iron ore is magnetically configured to pull out of any soup it is free to move within, and does so particularly in space. Thus, the dust, during poofing off into space during demolition derby's as Planet X and its complex of Moons moved through what is now the Asteroid Belt, moved, and became part of the Planet X tail. Planet X, like a big magnet, swept through the area during the poofing phase, and emerged with a larger dust cloud, each time.

We have mentioned that the tail curls toward the Earth, pulled by gravity and magnetic and other attractants, thus red dust lands hours before the point of passage. Thus, red dusting is a countdown clue, that only hours remain. The Earth, at this point, has been stopped in its rotation for days, approximately a week. Thus, since the South Pacific is more in line with where the tail is coming from, will this be the spot where the lick of the tail is first experienced? Dust clouds, as anyone experiencing a sand storm will attest, have a life of their own. The cloud itself exists because there is some kind of glue holding it together. The dust clings to the debris which clings to the larger debris such as moons, and these cling to Planet X. There is more than gravity involved, as this is too simplistic an explanation, and more than magnetism though the iron ore is certainly more magnetically active than most dust clouds.

Debris follows the pattern of the tail, all being included in the dynamics. Debris toward the end of a moon swirl that is curling toward the Earth and giving it a tail lick, so to speak, may be as massive and likely to cause damage as debris toward the Planet X portion of the tail. Look to the planets in the Ecliptic, with the more massive at outer orbits. The planets have their positions, their placement, for various reasons, and size is not the determinant as to what is closest to the gravitational giant, the Sun. In like manner, larger debris may in fact be trailing smaller, within a moon swirl trailing behind Planet X. Thus, all parts of the globe report debris, China as well as Egypt, in the past. The tail streams behind Planet X, which is moving rapidly and has been during the preceding months, and is involved in swirling motions as the Moons have a dance between themselves. Thus, there is motion already.

A tail swirl, moving like a slow moving tornado, approaches Earth which has magnetic as well as gravity attraction. Thus, it is not simply a head-on hit, tail to Earth, as it is also a sideways hit from swirling matter coming from this or that side. Then there is the motion of a tail swirl being curled toward Earth, continuing the curl. Like a whip that curls around what it is thrown against, the tail can warp all around the Earth during such a lick. There are no parts of the globe that do not report red dust, frankly. It is perhaps more extreme on those sides of the globe that will be facing the approach, but elsewhere is not exempt. Debris, as with red dust, may have a slight weight to the sides of the Earth facing the approaching Planet X complex, but from the standpoint of an individual worries about having a boulder land on his head, the odds are so close as to be statistically insignificant, as to which side of the Earth you are on.


(1) 2010-Oct.

* Position of STEREO A and B for 2010-10-01 00:00 UT

1-1) STEREO Behind COR2

1-2) STEREO Behind COR1

1-3) STEREO Behind EUVI 195

2-1) STEREO Ahead COR2

2-2) STEREO Ahead COR1

2-3) STEREO Ahead HI 1




(2) 2011-Aug.

* Position of STEREO A and B for 2011-08-01 00:00 UT

1) STEREO Behind (EUVI 195, COR2)

2) STEREO Ahead COR2




Comment by Polspringer on October 13, 2010 at 12:28pm

Some ZT...



Planet X has been appearing on SOHO and the Stereo Ahead for some months now, in approximately the 4:30 o'clock position. But sometimes something bright with a tail shows up all over the place, above the Sun, to the left of the Sun, etc. If this is Planet X, why is it moving around so much?



When the Winged Globe or the Red Cross appears to the lower right on the Sun, this is the Planet X corpus. We have explained that the tail is vast, the Moon swirls swinging to either side of Planet X by 5 million miles, but the tail itself swings further than that. During the hour of the pole shift, when Planet X is a mere 14 million miles from the Earth, the tail is whipping the Earth, depositing hail and red dust. The tail itself can catch the light, reflecting this to Earth, in what appears to be a blaze of light with a tail drifting away. It is charged, so clings to itself in places, so is thicker in some places than others, just as an electrical charge can raise the hair on your head. As Planet X turns its charged tail toward the Earth, increasingly, such sudden appearances will increase, consternating NASA.


Planet X is moving outbound from the Sun, approximately mid-way between the Earth and the Sun, and slightly to the right of the Sun in the view from Earth.


The tail of Planet X is composed of dozens of moons the size of the Earth's Moon, much debris, and charged red dust. Depending upon the angle, sunlight can blaze off a portion of the dust cloud around a Moon Swirl, so it looks like a spash of light with a drifing tail. Or it can blaze off the individual moons in a swirl, each surrounding by its own dust cloud, so it appears as a String of Pearls. Or under close inspection, the individual moons may be visible.


As it obvious from the many times SOHO has shown edit lines or planets lurching about that the images are manipulated. This goes beyond air-brushing out the presence of Planet X, which has lately become problematic for NASA as the tail is wafting about. Their manipulation includes the placement of light bursts where the other planets should be, on schedule. This is certainly a simple matter, and can be programmed to be included with the images before they arrive on Earth at the SOHO repositories. The occasional edit line blooper shows the operation of such programs, as a computer program cannot gaze at the overall and see slight shades differences as the human eye can do.


* Lagrangian point

The Lagrangian points are the five positions in an orbital configuration where a small object affected only by gravity can theoretically be stationary relative to two larger objects (such as a satellite with respect to the Earth and Moon). The Lagrange points mark positions where the combined gravitational pull of the two large masses provides precisely the centripetal force required to rotate with them.

Lagrangian points are the stationary solutions of the circular restricted three-body problem. For example, given two massive bodies in circular orbits around their common center of mass, there are five positions in space where a third body, of comparatively negligible mass, could be placed so as to maintain its position relative to the two massive bodies. As seen in a rotating reference frame with the same period as the two co-orbiting bodies, the gravitational fields of two massive bodies combined with the satellite's circular motion are in balance at the Lagrangian points, allowing the third body to be stationary with respect to the first two bodies.

A contour plot of the effective potential due to gravity and the centrifugal force of a two-body system in a rotating frame of reference. The arrows indicate the gradients of the potential around the five Lagrange points — downhill toward them (red) or away from them (blue). Counterintuitively, the L4 and L5 points are the high points of the potential. At the points themselves these forces are balanced.


* Orbit of SOHO satellite

SOHO is operated from a permanent vantage point 1.5 million kilometers sunward of the Earth in a halo orbit around the Lagrangian point L1. That is at 1/100th of the total average distance from the Earth to the Sun which is 149.6 million km.

After a four-month journey the spacecraft reached its vantage point in orbit 1.5 million km nearer to the Sun than the Earth's own orbit. There at the Lagrange point L1, the gravitational pull of the Sun is balanced by the pull of the Earth and the centrifugal force acting on a spacecraft orbiting in step with the Earth. SOHO can therefore remain hovering around that relative position, in a "halo orbit", while it accompanies the Earth in its annual march around the Sun. The spacecraft completes one revolution in its halo orbit around L1 roughly every 6 months.


* Orbit of STEREO satellite

The two STEREO spacecraft were launched at 0052 UTC on October 26, 2006. The apogee reached the Moon's orbit. On December 15, 2006, on the fifth orbit, the pair swung by the Moon for a gravitational slingshot. Because the two spacecraft were in slightly different orbits, the "ahead" (A) spacecraft was ejected to a heliocentric orbit inside Earth's orbit while the "behind" (B) spacecraft remained temporarily in a high earth orbit. The B spacecraft encountered the Moon again on the same orbital revolution on January 21, 2007, ejecting itself from earth orbit in the opposite direction from spacecraft A. Spacecraft B entered a heliocentric orbit outside the Earth's orbit. Spacecraft A will take 347 days to complete one revolution of the sun and Spacecraft B will take 387 days. The A spacecraft/sun/earth angle will increase at 21.650 degree/year. The B spacecraft/sun/earth angle will change −21.999 degrees per year. Their current locations are shown here.

Over time, the STEREO spacecraft will continue to separate from each other at a combined rate of approximately 44 degrees per year. There are no final positions for the spacecraft. They achieved 90 degrees separation on January 24, 2009, a condition known as quadrature. This is of interest because the mass ejections seen from the side on the limb by one spacecraft can potentially be observed by the in situ particle experiments of the other spacecraft. As they passed through Earth's Lagrangian points L4 and L5, in late 2009, they searched for Lagrangian (trojan) asteroids. On February 6, 2011, the two spacecraft were exactly 180 degrees apart from each other, allowing the entire Sun to be seen at once for the first time.

Even as the angle increases, the addition of an Earth-based view, e.g. from the Solar Dynamics Observatory, will still provide full-Sun observations for several years. In 2015, contact will be lost for several months when the STEREO spacecraft pass behind the Sun.

They will then start to approach Earth again, with closest approach sometime in 2023. They will not be recaptured into Earth orbit.



* Lagrangian point:

* Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO):

* STEREO (Solar TErrestrial RElations Observatory) :


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Comment by SerenitysLove on August 29, 2011 at 3:51am

Thank You!!

Comment by Deborah on August 29, 2011 at 3:19am

Great work Kojima, I was wondering if, given the speed of PX and the known position of PX at given times, Is it possible to work out when it will be at its closest to us ? Not being very good at Math, I'm hoping that some one else may have had a go at this?  Any one?

Comment by Co S on August 29, 2011 at 12:23am

This is awesome!!! Putting complex interactions into graphics really isnt easy!
  You are the man Kojima!

Comment by Selim KARABIYIK on August 28, 2011 at 6:13pm

Thank you very much again, Kojima. The 3D diagram is excellent!

Comment by Rick Rickster on August 24, 2011 at 1:21pm


Comment by Selim KARABIYIK on August 23, 2011 at 10:58pm

Incredible! Again great work clarifying the confusion related to different telescopes having different angles and perspectives. Thank you very much, Kojima.

Comment by KM on August 23, 2011 at 8:03pm

Thank you Kojima for all of your hard work.

Comment by Kojima on August 23, 2011 at 7:26pm

* Lagrangian point

* Orbit of SOHO satellite

* Orbit of STEREO satellite




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