This could be significant, folks.  The mainstream article has a disclaimer that flowing water on Mars does not mean life ever existed there (yeah, right, sure), but this may be Zetas right again!


Mars may have had oceans

The idea that Mars once had oceans is a controversial one: It's been proposed before, and formations that look like shorelines have been found in images from a variety of spacecraft.

Now scientists, after analyzing data from the European Space Agency's Mars Express mission, have concluded that the northern plains of Mars may have had an ocean.

Mars Express' MARSIS radar, deployed in 2005, penetrates deep into the Martian surface. Scientists from the Institut de Planétologie et d’Astrophysique de Grenoble and University of California, Irvine, say that the first 60 to 80 meters of the planet's subsurface shows evidence of sedimentary material and ice, indicating that an ocean could have existed there.

Scientists are proposing not just one, but two possible oceans in the same area. The first ocean would have existed 4 billion years ago when Mars was warmer.

The second would have existed 3 billion years ago after Mars sustained an ice-melting impact. It would have been temporary since the water either refroze or vaporized into the atmosphere.

Evidence of oceans in this case doesn't indicate life, however, the scientists say. The second, temporary ocean probably wouldn't have existed long enough to sustain life, the French institute's Dr. Jérémie Mouginot said in a statement. To find life, astrobiologists will have to study parts of Mars' history when water may have existed for longer periods of time.


ZetaTalk Newsletter Issue 87, July 20, 2008

Life on Mars
Long suspected, but not confirmed. Mars has had surface water. Canyons have been created by the rushing water and evidence of great lakes along now-dry shorelines.

Incredible Pictures of Mars
July 16, 2008
Ever since Victorian astronomers pointed their telescopes towards Mars and wrongly believed they had discovered canals, mankind has been obsessed by the red planet. Now these astonishing new images - captured by a European spacecraft in orbit around Mars - are helping to fuel that fascination. They show in astonishing detail a network of giant valleys, vast plains and towering waterfalls carved into the surface of our neighboring planet, millions of miles away. The latest images show the Echus Chasma, a vast valley just north of Mars equator around 62 miles long and six miles wide. The feature is cut into a high plateau and its steep-sided cliffs - some 12,000 feet high - bear a striking resemblance to the canyons of North America. Thunderous waterfalls may have once plunged over these cliffs, from the high Lunea Planum plateau that surrounds the Echus Chasma, on to the valley floor below.

Per new analysis of material from Mars' surface, Mars not only had water, it had a climate sufficient to sustain life - warm and balmy.

New Data Pinpoint Mars' Wet and Balmy Past
July 16, 2008
Water bathed the surface of southern Mars for millions of years, helping to create an environment theoretically capable of nurturing life. Scientists at Brown University in Rhode Island used an instrument aboard a US spacecraft, the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, to hunt for traces of phyllosilicates, or clay-like minerals that preserve a record of water's interaction with rocks. They found phyllosilicates in thousands of places, in valleys, dunes and craters in the ancient southern highlands. Mars was once awash with water, one of the ingredients for life. Still unclear is what happened to the oceans. The leading theory is that the planet's once-thick atmosphere began to thin, causing the precious liquid to evaporate into space. Only a thin atmosphere, consisting overwhelmingly of carbon dioxide, remains today.

Where did the water go? Man is still confused, and has no explanation for the loss of both the water and the atmosphere it generated. But the Zetas have long had an explanation. As with Earth, the Annunaki mined for gold on Mars, and used the water to wash their ore, sending it down into underground caverns while doing so. Thus, they ruined the ability of Mars to sustain an atmosphere, destroying Mars' ability to be a life bearing planet.

ZetaTalk Explanation 7/15/1999: Mars today is a dead planet, but in the recent past this was not the case. Some life bearing planets have a stronger footing than others, being closer to the warmth of a sun, for instance, and more particularly being a water planet like the Earth. Mars has little of that precious substance, and was a life bearing planet only where the freezing point had not trapped the water. The atmosphere surrounding a water planet can rebuild quickly, particularly in the components that support life. On a dry planet the atmosphere is fragile, and each rebuilding takes away more of the precious water. In the past, Mars sustained life to a level not unlike our home in Zeta Reticuli - moss and insects and worms. On such worlds there is not enough food in the food chain to support animals above that level, and setbacks occur repeatedly. A bug-eating reptile might get its start, only to die off during lean times, time and again. Thus such planets plateau.

Mars met its demise as a result of visitors from Planet X, who set up mining operations on Mars in preference to Earth where large carnivorous mammals roamed about in great numbers. Planet X has no such carnivores on land, and as large and muscular as these giant hominoid visitors are, they quaked at the thought. Where the atmosphere on Mars was thin, it was ample, so the visitors set about using what water resources they could muster to wash the ore they were after. In so doing they sought to control the run-off on the relatively flat surface of Mars, and did so in a thoughtless manner by directing waste water down a culvert. Thus precious water increasingly was sent underground, and a chain of events was set in motion that could not be reversed. The surface of Mars cooled as the atmosphere thinned, and the freezing surface accelerated this process.

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Comment by Mario V-R on February 3, 2013 at 4:45pm

Curiosity Mars rover hammers into rock

Before and after: Curiosity uses its drill system for the first time
The Mars rover Curiosity has used its drill system for the first time.

The robot's tool bit hammered briefly, without rotation, into a flat slab of rock on the floor of Gale Crater, the huge bowl where it landed last August.

Pictures taken before and after the operation reveal the indentation left by the tool's action.

Although previous rovers have scrubbed the surface of rocks, Curiosity is the first to carry the capability to drill inside them.

US space agency (Nasa) engineers are taking a step-by-step approach to the procedure.

They need to check both the rock and the drill are behaving as expected.

If the target slab is deemed suitable, a number of test holes are likely to be drilled - using the rotation as well the percussive action - before a powdered sample is picked up and delivered to Curiosity's onboard laboratories.

The rover's mission is to try to determine whether Gale has ever had the environments in the past that were capable of supporting bacterial life.

Detailing the composition of rocks is critical to this investigation as the deposits in the crater will retain a geochemical record of the conditions under which they formed.

Drilling a few centimetres inside a rock provides a fresh sample that is free from the alteration that can occur at the surface as a result of weathering or radiation damage.

Curiosity landed on the Red Planet on 6 August last year.

It has since driven east of its touchdown point to a location that satellite images had identified as an intersection of three distinct geological terrains.

The robot is currently in a small depression dubbed Yellowknife Bay. The rock selected for the first drilling is a very fine grained sedimentary rock cut through with veins of what appear to be a calcium sulphate.

This rock also has a name - John Klein, taken from a recently deceased Nasa engineer who worked on the rover project.

Scientists are thrilled with the progress of the mission so far. Many of the rocks, like the ones in Yellowknife Bay, show clear evidence of deposition in, or alteration by, water.

Shortly before rolling into the bay, Curiosity identified conglomerations containing small rounded clasts, or pebbles, indicating the past presence of fast running water, most likely in a network of streams.


From what I have read and researched -The main sources of calcium sulfate on Earth are naturally occurring gypsum and anhydrite which occur at many locations worldwide as evaporites. Evaporite is a name for a water-soluble mineral sediment that result from concentration and crystallization by evaporation from an aqueous solution.There are two types of evaporate deposits: marine, which can also be described as ocean deposits, and non-marine, which are found in standing bodies of water such as lakes. Evaporites are considered sedimentary rocks. story below- this source from wiki-

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Comment by Etana on February 8, 2012 at 3:50am

So the Sumerians, too. Zecharia Sitchin also mentioned that Mars was a watery planet in his book: "12th Planet", of his Earth Chronicles series and the Annunaki was or are still gold mining in one of its moon, Phoebus.

Comment by Kris H on February 8, 2012 at 3:27am
The article is careful to say this ease the case billions of years ago, which falls in line with their usual weak steps toward disclosure of alien life. "Oh it's possible, but only as one-celled organisms, and billions of years ago." That kind of thing. However, the Zs say "recent" history. My guess is this happened just in the last 3-5 PX passages. How long have the Annunaki had technology to travel off their planet? A technology that we have nearly matched at this point. How old is the face on Mars? Could that last for billions of years? Compare that weathering to the Great Pyramids, which also have a dry windy climate. The difference does not appear to be billions of years, but rather hundreds of years.
Comment by Rick Rickster on February 7, 2012 at 11:29pm

HiRise Experiment - Explore Mars one hi-resolution image at at time:

Absolutely Stunning images 2012 : 

Signs of Water: Sediment deposited by flowing water Click the links under "Wallpaper"

Possible plant life: stunning images of Mars trees? Click the links under "Wallpaper"

Comment by Rick Rickster on February 7, 2012 at 11:01pm

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