Bingo! A Paid Internet Shill's Confession

http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-man...

 

Update February 15, 2013:  No person is named and the article was apparently removed from the Above Top Secret site, so exactly how is the article libelous?

As far as being utterly false, if that were the standard for removing online articles, the internet would be a whole lot smaller, closer to empty than full.

Me thinks the article hits too close to the truth.

Re:  I Was a Paid Internet Shill: How Shadowy Groups Manipulate Internet Opinion and Debate

Update 1/12/2013: CLN has received a takedown notice asking us to remove this article on the basis that “It is libelous and utterly false” from someone claiming to be a legal agent of Above Top Secret’s parent company. We are currently investigating and will post status updates as they become available. The original thread now appears to have vanished from Above Top Secret’s website.

 

Update 1/17/2013: We have requested clarification regarding the takedown request and have not received a response. We will provide updates on any new developments.  http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-man...

 

Disappearing ZetaTalk or Planet X Debunking Sites and Pages:

astrogeek.us (critic of Nancy Lieder and ZetaTalk - as of 05/10/13 site is gone)

2012hoax.org (site moved and updated in 2013 to exclude all ZetaTalk debunking material; the pages on Crustal Displacement and Rotational Pole Shift are also gone!)

Skeptical Mind [SkepticalMind.com] (as of 03/25/13 site is gone)

I M Openminded on ZetaTalk and Planet X. (as of 03/25/13 debunking site is gone)

ECTV The good, the bad and the ugly (Planet X) (as of 03/25/13 page at Earth Changes Media is gone)

Nancy Lieder's "Planet X" Image Hoax by SarahMC (as of 03/25/13 page is gone)

Zeta Squawk [zetasquawk.com] (as of 03/25/13 site is gone)

YowUSA.com (as of 03/29/13 ZetaTalk debunking page exist but deleted from marshallmasters.com site)

marshallmasters.com (as of 03/29/13 debunking pages are gone, broken links only)

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http://marshallmasters.com/html/articles.html


stevequayle.com (as of 03/30/13 http://stevequayle.com/News.alert/11_Global/110301.alert.Planet.X.html where Planet X was alleged to be past Jupiter is gone)

As of 04/08/13 more broken links at http://planet-x.150m.com/links.html

     Search for Planet X

     Ask the Astronomer

     Introduction to IRAS

     Tracking the North Magnetic Pole

     Astronomy Cafe  "The web site for the astronomically disadvantaged"

     Kook-Watch.net on Zetatalk

     Hunt for Planet X Club

     DreamScape

Mitch Battros Articles are Disappearing:

Planet-X Cult Gets Excited Again; New Found Planet (as of 04/22/13 page is gone; Mitch Battros is an obvious paid shill)

Earthquakes, Volcanoes and Change in Our Sun (By Mitch Battros - Earth Changes Media
Apr 17, 2012 -- as of 04/22/13 page is gone; Mitch may have heard that even the USGS claims there is no connection betwen solar activity and earthquakes)

Turning My Attention Back to Science (as of 04/22/13 article is gone although a small portion was cached:  May 13, 2007 – by Mitch Battros – Earth Changes Media. Now that we ... So all you Planet-X wacko's do not bother administering your dribble. You won't like ...)
ESHIFTS   Theosophy and Science Contrasted

Update 03/29/13:  We can add Marshall Masters to the list of ZetaTalk debunkers who are suddenly changing their minds before the Planet X announcement.  (Please see Marshall Masters site's missing debunking pages above.)

 

Many thanks to PS ning member lonne de vries for bringing the GLP paid shill caught in the act event to our attention.  Thank you!

 

ZetaTalk for April 6, 2013:

The Zetas have stated people are paid to debunk ZetaTalk.  Unfortunately, since such activities are done strictly in secret, it is almost impossible for the average person to prove paid shills even exist. But a paid shill may have made a critical error at the Godlike Productions (GLP) site on March 24, 2013, as the below article appears to show.  The specific post was deleted from GLP, and a topic about it at the Above Top Secret forum was also removed.  It appears this was not a joke but an extremely rare example of a paid shill caught in the act by revealing paid shill operating instructions not meant for public viewing. Could the Zetas tell us if someone got careless and provided a smoking gun or actual proof that paid shills do exist? [and from another] http://www.insanemedia.net/forum-shill-gets-busted-ats-and-glp-cens...  Forum Shill gets Busted: ATS and GLP Censor to Cover his Tracks. A Forum Shill gets busted. Something very interesting happened over at GLP March 24th at 9:28 pm.  Something that did not go unnoticed by GLP posters and many others around the interwebz. On page 7 of a  thread titled “Medical Type Says Sandy Hook is Total BS”,   a user from “Kazakhstan” posted the following. Needless to say suspicions were aroused and investigations into specific terms in the text were Googled.  Namely N-7015A.DOC, PREDEV persona, etc.  An early search for N-7015A.DOC resulted in this list. Second from the bottom we see eda.ogden.disa.mil.  If you do the same search, only the forum references appear.  The eda site was very quickly removed from the Google string.  How very very interesting.


 

Was this revelation of paid debunker campaigns accidentally revealed? At a time when funds to support these paid campaigns are drying up (due to the sequester) and due to a changed attitude in Washington DC on the need for such disinformation campaigns (due to Obama’s intent to announce the truth about Nibiru aka Planet X) there has been consternation in the halls of the debunkers. Debunker managers are in competition with each other, trying to do the most with the least, and pressuring those reporting to them for more efficiency and demonstrated results. This environment makes for fatigue, disgruntlement, distraction and mistakes.

The revelation on a GodlikeProduction thread was the accidental posting from a debunker’s clipboard of information accidentally copied into the clipboard. It revealed that fronts in Kazakhstan and Korea were being used, multiple fronts/personas available to each individual debunker, and that the debunking participants included the US military. It revealed a checklist to be used by the debunkers, showing this to be anything but a casual operation by individuals, as the debunking campaigns have always claimed.  The speed with which this accidental posting was removed from GodlikeProduction and Above Top Secret forums also revealed that the debunkers have access to moderator privileges in these forums, showing that they themselves are debunking operations. Cover blown!

It has been noted in the past that those debunking ZetaTalk and Nancy Lieder seemed to work as a team, using a one-two punch technique where one would ask a question and another would answer, or all would attack the same element of ZetaTalk simultaneously. There was no obvious link between these debunkers, but the pattern was unmistakable and in fact turned many in the public to take ZetaTalk seriously. As with NASA singling Nancy Lieder out in their denials about Nibiru and Planet X, why just this source, and not others? Will there be other such slips as the cover-up unravels, revealing what has been behind the curtain? How could it be otherwise when the rage over lost wages has just begun to take hold?  http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/06ap2013.htm


ZetaTalk for March 30, 2013:

There have been a group of individuals tracking an "unknown object" in the sky.  It is from a fixed live-feed camera at 10 thousand feet.  It is showing up regularly, weather permitting.  Another group is tracking an object they believe will be able to regularly be seen by the eye in June. Can the Zetas clarify what  these two groups are actually seeing?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1COFJPoe1A  [and from another] To clarify the difference between what Marshal Maters (YOWUSA) and ZetaTalk state: he is one that does not deny the existence of Planet X, just claims it is not in the inner solar system and that all the photos and videos taken since 2003 are false. Yup, that's the short and long of it. Also all the SOHO images, false. Cheap cameras, lens flares, no one but he and his team can discern the truth. I just produced a new YouTube vid on all the trash in the tail of Planet X, which gives the true picture. http://youtu.be/KxV8xqi15TI


As it becomes obvious that Planet X is near the Sun, within the orbit of Venus, and as word that Obama’s planned announcement to this effect is going forward and cannot be stopped, various parties who formerly debunked ZetaTalk are changing their story. Marshall Masters of YOWUSA is one who did not deny that Planet X existed, but attempted to ally with the cover-up by claiming it was out in space somewhere, at an undetermined location. He also has claimed that the myriad photos, videos, and SOHO images of the Planet X complex showing its location all these years are a result of cheap cameras or lens flares. Everyone is mistaken, except for Marshall Masters and his supposed team of experts.

Marshall is suddenly trying to straddle the fence, claiming in his latest analysis, designed to accompany his latest appearance on Coast to Coast am, that debris visible on the horizon from a Costa Rico webcam at sunset is a “blue kachina”, to be followed by the “red kachina” ie Planet X. He still cannot clarify its location, despite George Norry asking this repeatedly. Marshall also stated that Planet X is lost in the glare of the Sun, without explaining how this could be happening year round unless the complex was close to the Sun, within the orbit of Earth. Why these contortions?

Marshall is banking on the hope that Obama’s announcement will not clarify how long Planet X has been in the inner solar system, nor perhaps even its exact location. Thus, he can discard, suddenly, a decade of debunking ZetaTalk while cooperating with the cover-up, and appear as a hero for predicting its arrival in the summer of 2013! Will this succeed? In that the world has been capturing the Planet X complex on film, and seeing it naked eye, with or without the assist of red or mylar filters or welder’s lens, and in that there is a vast collection of these images on the ZetaTalk website and the Pole Shift ning, this gambit will not work. If you want to see the truth, watch Nancy’s latest video on the bolide blitz and avoid the latest switcheroo game from Marshall Masters.  http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30mr2013.htm


ZetaTalk for March 30, 2013:

We have been awaiting the Presidential announcement, and so recent cessation of attacks on the Zeta message have indicated that perhaps a message has come down from the government to stop attacking Nancy and or the Zeta message.  SkepticalMind.com has disappeared. Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot http://projectcamelot.org/mission.html is suddenly no longer doing interviews on Revolution Radio. GodlikeProduction site is up for sale, due to supposed DDOS attacks. Links on the YOWusa.com site that bashed ZetaTalk are suddenly broken links. Anti-zeta websites seems to have changed their tune. The question to the Zetas is - are the disappearance or cessation of attacks on Nancy and the Zetas connected to the Presidential announcement? [and from another] http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z04.htm  The owners of the SkepticalMind web site have presented themselves on the web as ZetaTalk. Forging postings is an illegal act, and since ZetaTalk is protected under a Trademark, this is frankly illegal from this standpoint. Their ZetaTalk.NET and ZetaTalk.ORG sites are mirrors of the SkepticalMind.COM/zetatalk.html web site, and announced during a chat the intention of providing ZetaTalk email addresses to debunkers.


The rats are leaving a sinking ship! For years, since 1983 when Reagan’s Executive Order directing a cover-up over the approach of Planet X, aka Nibiru, government funds have been used to suppress chatter about this issue. The alien presence is also a suppressed item, with Project Bluebook and other government projects debunking UFO sightings and harassment of contactees paid for by the taxpayers. It is not just Obama’s decision to reverse Reagan’s Executive Order and admit to the presence of Planet X, it is also the sequester that has hit the pockets of the debunkers.

Most of this activity has taken place as black ops, not on the books and officially not even happening. All the tentacles of this octopus are difficult to stop, even by official proclamation, as the CIA and DIA operate on a need to know basis and thus, just who is doing what is known only at the end of the tentacle. Those in sympathy with the cover-up continued their harassment of ZetaTalk proponents despite Obama’s new Executive Order, but when the funds were cut off, things change. One proof that a debunker or debunker site was a PAID debunker or site is how quickly they vanish when their paycheck is no longer forthcominghttp://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30mr2013.htm

 Truth or fiction?

The paid shills and professional debunkers who work at godlikeproductions.com (GLP) repeatedly claim they are not paid to post and/or moderate or there is no such occupation as a paid shill.  But paid shills are obviously monitoring and (often quickly) posting bogus explanations and personal attacks on internet threads, articles, and blogs related to Planet X/Nibiru, ZetaTalk, and/or the best evidence of Planet X caused earth changes, signs in the sky, and signs in the solar system.

Many things the below, necessarily anonymous author discusses have a ring of truth and, of course, cannot be verified as secrecy is the nature of the paid shill game.  But I have often seen the tactics and strategies he mentions deployed at GLP and other sites where the public is allowed to post without pre-approval.  (Establishment sites in disguise such as The Extinction Protocol and wattsupwiththat.com do not allow comments or replies to appear without approval, problem solved.)

The actions and bungling of many paid shills at GLP are causing them to be revealed as professional debunkers and liars.  (Funny how those shills continue to post even after being outed, but they will not get their ill-gotten pay if they do not perform their despicable jobs.)  Yes, we are in the Second Great Depression but can't these shills find an honest way of making a living that does not involve assisting the cover up of Planet X and spreading Establishment Lies and disinformation?

Nancy Lieder's blog on the PS ning is excellent proof people are indeed paid to be debunkers:  Air Force Application for DEBUNKERS! Good Heavens!

Sample of what you will see when banned from posting on or even reading GLP.

www.godlikeproductions.com

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I Was a Paid Internet Shill

By Ex-Shill

I am writing here to come out of the closet as a paid shill. For a little over six months, I was paid to spread disinformation and argue political points on the Internet. This site, ATS [Above Top Secret], was NOT one that I was assigned to post on, although other people in the same organization were paid to be here, and I assume they still walk among you. But more on this later.

I quit this job in the latter part of 2011, because I became disgusted with it, and with myself. I realized I couldn’t look myself in the mirror anymore. If this confession triggers some kind of retribution against me, so be it. Part of being a real man in this world is having real values that you stand up for, no matter what the consequences.

My story begins in early 2011. I had been out of work for almost a year after losing my last job in tech support. Increasingly desperate and despondent, I jumped at the chance when a former co-worker called me up and said she had a possible lead for me. “It is an unusual job, and one that requires secrecy. But the pay is good. And I know you are a good writer, so its something you are suited for.” (Writing has always been a hobby for me).

She gave me only a phone-number and an address, in one of the seedier parts of San Francisco, where I live. intrigued, I asked her for the company’s URL and some more info. She laughed. “They don’t have a website. Or even a name. You’ll see. Just tell them I referred you.” Yes, it sounded suspicious, but long-term joblessness breeds desperation, and desperation has a funny way of overlooking the suspicious when it comes to putting food on the table.

The next day, I arrived at the address – the third floor in a crumbling building. The appearance of the place did not inspire confidence. After walking down a long, filthy linoleum-covered corridor lit by dimly-flickering halogen, I came to the entrance of the office itself: a crudely battered metal door with a sign that said “United Amalgamated Industries, Inc.”

I later learned that this “company” changed its name almost monthly, always using bland names like that which gave no strong impression of what the company actually does. Not too hopeful, I went inside. The interior was equally shabby. There were a few long tables with folding chairs, at which about a dozen people were tapping away on old, beat-up computers. There were no decorations or ornaments of any type: not even the standard-issue office fica trees or plastic ferns. What a dump. Well, beggars can’t be choosers.

The manager, a balding man in his late forties, rose from the only stand-alone desk in the room and came forward with an easy smile. “You must be Chris. Yvette [my ex-co-worker] told me you’d be coming.” [Not our real names]. “Welcome. Let me tell you a little about what we do.” No interview, nothing. I later learned they took people based solely on referral, and that the people making the referrals, like my ex-colleague Yvette, were trained to pick out candidates based on several factors including ability to keep one’s mouth shut, basic writing skills, and desperation for work.

We sat down at his desk and he began by asking me a few questions about myself and my background, including my political views (which were basically non-existent). Then he began to explain the job. “We work on influencing people’s opinions here,” is how he described it. The company’s clients paid them to post on Internet message boards and popular chartrooms, as well as in gaming forums and social networks like Facebook and MySpace. Who were these clients? “Oh, various people,” he said vaguely. “Sometimes private companies, sometimes political groups.”

Satisfied that my political views were not strong, he said I would be assigned to political work. “The best people for this type of job are people like you, without strong views,” he said with a laugh. “It might seem counterintuitive, but actually we’ve found that to be the case.” Well, OK. Fine. As long as it comes with a steady paycheck, I’d believe whatever they wanted me to believe, as the guy in Ghostbusters said.

After discussing pay (which was much better than I’d hoped) and a few other details, he then went over the need for absolute privacy and secrecy. “You can’t tell anyone what we do here. Not your wife, not your dog.” (I have neither, as it happens.) “We’ll give you a cover story and even a phone number and a fake website you can use. You will have to tell people you are a consultant. Since your background is in tech support, that will be your cover job. Is this going to be a problem for you?” I assured him it would not. “Well, OK. Shall we get started?”

“Right now?” I asked, a bit taken aback.

“No time like the present!” he said with a hearty laugh.

The rest of the day was taken up with training. Another staff member, a no-nonsense woman in her thirties, was to be my trainer, and training would only last two days. “You seem like a bright guy, you’ll get the hang of it pretty fast, I think,” she said. And indeed, the job was easier than I’d imagined. My task was simple: I would be assigned to four different websites, with the goal of entering certain discussions and promoting a certain view. I learned later that some of the personnel were assigned to internet message boards (like me), while others worked on Facebook or chatrooms. It seems these three types of media each have different strategy for shilling, and each shill concentrates on one of the three in particular.

My task? “To support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.” Fine with me. I had no opinions one way or another about Israel, and who likes anti-Semites and Nazis? Not me, anyway. But I didn’t know too much about the topic. “That’s OK,” she said. “You’ll pick it up as you go along. For the most part, at first, you will be doing what we call “meme-patrol.” This is pretty easy. Later if you show promise, we’ll train you for more complex arguments, where more in-depth knowledge is necessary.”

She handed me two binders with sheets enclosed in limp plastic. The first was labeled simply “Israel” in magic-marker on the cover, and it had two sections .The first section contained basic background info on the topic. I would have to read and memorize some of this, as time went on. It had internet links for further reading, essays and talking points, and excerpts from some history books. The second, and larger, section was called “Strat” (short for “strategy”) with long lists of “dialogue pairs.” These were specific responses to specific postings.

If a poster wrote something close to “X,” we were supposed to respond with something close to “Y.” “You have to mix it up a bit, though,” said my trainer. “Otherwise it gets too obvious. Learn to use a thesaurus.” This section also contained a number of hints for de-railing conversations that went too far away from what we were attempting. These strategies included various forms of personal attacks, complaining to the forum moderators, smearing the characters of our opponents, using images and icons effectively, and even dragging the tone of the conversation down with sexual innuendo, links to pornography, or other such things. “Sometimes we have to fight dirty,” or trainer told us. “Our opponents don’t hesitate to, so we can’t either.”

The second binder was smaller, and it contained information specific to the web sites I would be assigned to. The sites I would work were: Godlike Productions, Lunatic Outpost, CNN news, Yahoo News, and a handful of smaller sites that rotated depending on need. As stated, I was NOT assigned to work ATS (although others in my group were), which is part of the reason I am posting this here, rather than elsewhere. I wanted to post this on Godlike Productions at first, but they have banned me from even viewing that site for some reason (perhaps they are onto me?). But if somebody connected with this site can get the message to them, I think they should know about it, because that was the site I spent a good 70% of my time working on.

The site-specific info in the second binder included a brief history each site, including recent flame-wars, as well as info on what to avoid on each site so as not to get banned. It also had quite detailed info on the moderators and the most popular regged posters on each site: location (if known), personality type, topics of interest, background sketch, and even some notes on how to “push the psychological buttons” of different posters. Although I didn’t work for ATS, I did see they had a lot of info on your so-called “WATS” posters here (the ones with gold borders around their edges). “Focus on the popular posters,” my trainer told me. “These are the influential ones. Each of these is worth 50 to 100 of the lesser known names.”

Each popular poster was classified as “hostile,” “friendly,” or “indifferent” to my goal. We were supposed to cultivate friendship with the friendly posters as well as the mods (basically, by brownnosing and sucking up), and there were even notes on strategies for dealing with specific hostile posters. The info was pretty detailed, but not perfect in every case. “If you can convert one of the hostile posters from the enemy side to our side, you get a nice bonus. But this doesn’t happen too often, sadly. So mostly you’ll be attacking them and trying to smear them.”

At first, like I said, my job was “meme-patrol.” This was pretty simple and repetitive; it involved countering memes and introducing new memes, and didn’t demand much in-depth knowledge of the subject. Mostly just repetitive posting based on the dialogue pairs in the “Strat” section of the first binder. A lot of my job was de-railing and spamming threads that didn’t go our way, or making accusations of racism and anti-Semitism. Sometimes I had to simply lie and claim a poster said something or did something “in another thread” they really hadn’t said or done I felt bad about this…but in the end I felt worse about the possibility of losing the first job I’d been able to get since losing my “real” job.

The funny thing was, although I started the job with no strong opinions or political views, after a few weeks of this I became very emotionally wedded to the pro-Israel ideas I was pushing. There must be some psychological factor at work…a good salesman learns to honestly love the products he’s selling, I guess. It wasn’t long before my responses became fiery and passionate, and I began to learn more about the topic on my own. “This is a good sign,” my trainer told me. “It means you are ready for the next step: complex debate.”

The “complex debate” part of the job involved a fair amount of additional training, including memorizing more specific information about the specific posters (friendly and hostile) I’d be sparring with. Here, too, there were scripts and suggested lines of argument, but we were given more freedom. There were a lot of details to this more advanced stage of the job – everything from how to select the right avatar to how to use “demotivationals” (humorous images with black borders that one finds floating around the web). Even the proper use of images of cats was discussed. Sometimes we used faked or photo-shopped images or doctored news reports (something else that bothered me).

I was also given the job of tying to find new recruits, people “like me” who had the personality type, ability to keep a secret, basic writing/thinking skills, and desperation necessary to sign on a shill. I was less successful at this part of the job, though, and I couldn’t find another in the time I was there.

After a while of doing this, I started to feel bad. Not because of the views I was pushing (as I said, I was first apolitical, then pro-Israel), but because of the dishonesty involved. If my arguments were so correct, I wondered, why did we have to do this in the first place? Shouldn’t truth propagate itself naturally, rather than through, well…propaganda? And who was behind this whole operation, anyway? Who was signing my paychecks? The stress of lying to my parents and friends about being a “consultant” was also getting to me. Finally, I said enough was enough. I quit in September 2011. Since then I’ve been working a series of unglamorous temp office jobs for lower pay. But at least I’m not making my living lying and heckling people who come online to express their views and exercise freedom of speech.

A few days ago I happened to be in the same neighborhood and on a whim thought I’d check out the old office. It turns out the operation is gone, having moved on. This, too, I understood, is part of their strategy: Don’t stay in the same place for too long, don’t keep the same name too long, move on after half a year or so. Keeping a low profile, finding new employees through word of mouth: All this is part of the shill way of life. But it is a deceptive way of life, and no matter how noble the goals (I remain pro-Israel, by the way), these sleazy means cannot be justified by the end.

This is my confession. I haven’t made up my mind yet about whether I want to talk more about this, so if I don’t respond to this thread, don’t be angry. But I think you should know: Shills exist. They are real. They walk among you, and they pay special attention to your popular gold-bordered WATS posters. You should be aware of this. What you choose to do with this awareness is up to you.

Yours,

ExShill 

http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/

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ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for March 9, 2013

The conspiracy site Godlike Productions (GLP) was unexpectedly down, at a minimum, on February 28, 2013.  TrInItY claims this was a sophisticated DDOS attack, and he already determined who is responsible. Could the Zetas follow up on ZetaTalk for December 8, 2012, which revealed why TrInItY was under siege late last year?  Is this another warning to him about allowing ZetaTalk to be dishonestly bashed while denying ZetaTalk supporters the opportunity to post at a site that is allegedly open to all? [and from another] http://www.godlikeproductions.com  GLP Has Been Under A Sustained Sophisticated DDOS Attack All Day Long! [and from another] http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2154544/pg1  Sorry guys I was passed out when it happened.  Just got up and tracked this bullshit down. It's been mitigated and the packet captures sent to the FBI. Rory I know it was you.  The other guy was Ivan. Ivan is Rory's drunken Russian side kick. Ivan has been arrested and made 5k bail. Rory is next. [and from another] http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2154714/pg1  I have a lot more than this but I need clearance to post it. I present to you Rory Andrew Godfrey, age 26, from Rowlett Texas. The man responsible for DDOS'ing GLP and other conspiracy sites over the last 24 hours.  Listen to the 26 meg file. In it he admits to doing this shit to extort people for money. Literally. [and from another] http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/man-is-arrested-for-threateni...  January 19, 2009 Authorities arrested a US man on suspicion of threatening to kill President-elect Barack Obama based on statements he posted on a website about UFOs and aliens. Steven Joseph Christopher, in three postings to www.alien-earth.org.  As it turns out the threat is not the only thing this man posted on the web. He calls himself "Stevie the Playboy", "Trinity" and in some cases "god." [and from another] The popular conspiracy site Godlike Productions (GLP) hosted the weekly ZetaTalk Chat for years.  But these days it appears posting almost anything supportive of ZetaTalk or President Obama is cause for immediately being banned. GLP was unexpectedly down [December 8, 20012] for approximately seven hours recently, allegedly due to server issues.  Was this just a coincidence or was GLP deliberately taken down?  Could the Zetas address what is going on with GLP and why? Trinity, the owner, is saying he will likely sell due to a stalker he cannot shake. New owner around the corner.  http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2068710/pg1   [and from another] http://matrixofconspiracy.blogspot.com/2009/05/who-really-runs-glp-...  Who Really Runs "GLP" Godlikeproductions.com? I have frequented the site and do find it a strange place. Everybody knows about the autoban for using the words "Jason Lucas" "Tavistock" "Lop" etc. Google them if you are unfamiliar. The rumor is that Jason Lucas a spam/mal ware programmer who owned LOP, bought godlikeproductions which is a popular "conspiracy" bulletin board to spy on people. The person known as "^Trinity^" on GLP owns the site but nobody seems to know the man personally but for a few mods. GLP has lots of traffic but from my posting there, it is quite different than other popular sites. Hard to describe but something is not right on GLP and the traffic and posters often seem programmed and not authentic. "Controlling the conversation"? That's the way it feels. Like a big simulation.

 

Are various conspiracy sites on the Internet actually run by persons or entities working directly or indirectly for the CIA or other government intel agencies for the purpose of spreading disinformation or implanting spyware? Absolutely. The establishment, who has utilized the CIA and other intel arms for decades to serve the ultra-wealthy or corporate interests, wants these sites at its disposal for various reasons. They wish to test disinformation campaigns on the gullible public. What flies, and what meets ridicule, is determined. They wish to counter the truth with their disinformation. The truth, and its messengers, are ridiculed by paid individuals who cloak themselves in many different internet personas, so it seems the ridicule is coming from a broad base.

GodLikeProduction was purchased from Elaine after it had already established itself as a dynamo of intelligent discussion on breaking news.  It was the site to go to at the time. Reshaping it only slightly, Trinity allowed GodLikeProduction to retain its status and reputation, while simultaneously instituting the new agenda. He was already expert at both hosting disinformation and distributing spyware, both in a manner transparent to the user. Competing conspiracy discussion forums were not allowed to be mentioned, nor was any site that discussed the known history of the new GodLikeProduction owner. But while hosting weekly live ZetaTalk chats, and giving Nancy moderator rights so she could police her chats, extensive ridicule of the ZetaTalk message was, however, allowed. Meanwhile, those who were identified as fans of ZetaTalk were banned from posting.

What happens when such discussion boards must change their focus? The election of Obama brought new marching orders. Harsh treatment of ZetaTalk fans, and the message, was no longer a priority. Those with one foot in the past, those who were sympatico with the Bush administration’s agenda, simply failed to institute a change. Their excuse was that the public would notice, and be suspicious. Warned that they would have to change or die, Trinity adopted a stalker, known as Stevie. That this man was then arrested by the FBI on January 19, 2009 for statements against Obama is not surprising, as Trinity learned via his CIA contacts that the FBI was seeking Stevie and simply made claims that Stevie was also stalking Trinity. All this would have allowed Trinity to sell GodLikeProduction at that time, if it proved necessary.

But the Obama administration was busy trying to keep the nation from flushing down the toilet after the Bush Wall Street crash and tarp bailout in the fall of 2008. Trinity went back to business as usual, until Obama’s plans to announce the truth about the presence of Planet X, aka Nibiru, in the inner solar system. Intense DDOS attacks that brought GodLikeProduction to its knees were invented as the excuse for why Trinity would have to sell and move on. Someone hated him, or so it seemed, but the attacks were perpetrated by Trinity himself. Obama set out to make the announcement in September, 2012, and the first DDOS attack was in December, 2012. Once again, the apparent success of the cover-up crowd to prevail over Obama allowed Trinity to return to business as usual.

Now the DDOS attacks are back. What relationship does this have to recent cover-up supporters such as General Allen being flushed out and removed from influence? Clearly Trinity is keeping his options open, giving the impression that the FBI will arrest the perpetrator, who is again someone who hates him - a competitor. Watch the progress of these ongoing attacks to see which way the announcement barometer sways. Or will GodLikeProduction manage to change its tune when the announcement proves the ZetaTalk message correct, all these years? Can something that dirty become clean? Trinity and his handlers frankly doubt it, and are likely to arrange a quick sale to a reformer http://zetatalk.com/ning/09mr2013.htm

 

 

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for December 8, 2012

The popular conspiracy site Godlike Productions (GLP) hosted the weekly ZetaTalk Chat for years.  But these days it appears posting almost anything supportive of ZetaTalk or President Obama is cause for immediately being banned. GLP was unexpectedly down for approximately seven hours recently, allegedly due to server issues.  Was this just a coincidence or was GLP deliberately taken down?  Could the Zetas address what is going on with GLP and why? [and from another] Trinity, the owner, is saying he will likely sell due to a stalker he cannot shake. New owner around the corner. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2068710/pg1 And what will happen to the long time discussion debunking ZetaTalk and this Pole Shift ning? [and from another] http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/ Starting November 09, 2012 I will be featured on a History Channel 2 six part Special entitled "Countdown to Apocalypse". Last June I spent time in Los Angeles filming. Although I appear in all six parts of this series I will be featured more in part IV dealing with the prophesies of the Hopi.


The Obama administration made the decision in June to announce the presence of Planet X. The struggles Obama encountered attempting to announce via the Emergency Broadcast System or via an Oval Office Address are well documented. Due to the necessity of getting Obama re-elected and confirmed by the Electoral College, the announcement was set aside temporarily, but the battle continues. NASA has now begun an education process that includes admitting the Sun is not causing the current Earth changes, and this process will progress to an admission of Nibiru, aka Planet X, in the inner solar system. The plan is for NASA to provide this information before Obama speaks.


Those attempting the announcement have not been the only embattled group, as various disinformation sources and would-be prophets have experienced setbacks too. In late Summer, 2012 John Moore, who has regularly bashed Nancy Lieder and ZetaTalk, was given information from his “trusted sources” that indicated a passage by Nibiru by the Fall. In this his trusted sources were manipulated with false information to embarrass Moore and reduce his influence. James McCanney’s expectations that he would be allowed to hold forth as the expert on Planet X on a new History Channel 2 series on the end of the Mayan Calendar were dashed when the series was edited to remove any emphasis on Planet X whatsoever. James McCanney was to be simply the “electric Universe” guy, not the Planet X guy despite the title of his book including those words.

Now the popular GodLikeProduction message board owner is finding himself under siege. This was the site where Nancy conducted weekly Q&A sessions from November 12, 2005 through May 15, 2010, and was ostensibly open to both ZetaTalk fans and debunkers alike. But the vilification of Nancy and ZetaTalk, supported by moderators who would ban ZetaTalk fans and delete their comments, showed that Trinity was taking his orders from the cover-up. Was the incident recently where Trinity’s servers were down for hours, and the ban list deleted, a message? Is the announcement by Trinity that his troubles are due to a stalker whom he cannot eliminate, being forced thus to sell the site, related?

Trinity has been told that the changes to be made to his site are draconian, and has decided the public would never accept these changes at his hand. These maneuvers would be too obvious, and would in essence be an admission that he had been taking orders all along to allow ZetaTalk and Nancy to be bashed. A new owner could effect these changes, starting fresh with new rules and cleaning up past history. Long running discussions run by paid debunkers would simply disappear during the cleanup, and suddenly ZetaTalk fans and those supporting the sightings of Nibiru would find friendly ground. There are other areas to be addressed, so search engines are not directed to disinformation and insults. The Bad Astronomy site run by Phil Plait is yet to be buried, and the atrocious Wikipedia article on ZetaTalk corrected, but these are in the works.  http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/08de2012.htm

THE BIG LIE, HOW THE COVER-UP IS MANAGED

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Comment by ann s. on November 15, 2013 at 9:13pm
Zetasquawk resurrected and already gone again? No funds, no debunking, it appears.

Watch for deniers to claim zetatalk is all "doom and gloom" while ignoring the message of hope!
Comment by lonne de vries on September 17, 2013 at 10:38pm

Federal government routinely hires internet trolls, shills to monitor chat rooms, disrupt article comment sections

You've probably run into them before -- those seemingly random antagonizers who always end up diverting the conversation in an online chat room or article comment section away from the issue at hand, and towards a much different agenda. Hot-button issues like illegal immigration, the two-party political system, the "war on terror" and even alternative medicine are among the most common targets of such attackers, known as internet "trolls" or "shills," who in many cases are nothing more than paid lackeys hired by the federal government and other international organizations to sway and ultimately control public opinion.


Several years ago, Canada's CTV News aired a short segment about how its own government had been exposed for hiring secret agents to monitor social media and track online conversations, as well as the activities of certain dissenting individuals. This report, which in obvious whitewashing language referred to such activities as the government simply "weighing in and correcting" allegedly false information posted online, basically admitted that the Canadian government had assumed the role of secret online police. At the time, this was a great unknown to the general Canadian public.
"Shills exist, they are real. They walk among you ... You should be aware of this,"


 

 

Comment by Planet Twelve on June 15, 2013 at 8:15pm

The Shills will trill their lowly swill. Until the CoW comes home, I mean lands the knock-out Punch, and/or an Announcement (please already) renders that, er...hmm...let's see now, a collective noun for Shills...er, I'm going to call them a Treachery of Shills. That works. When that mob are rendered out of a job, their dubious and questionable so-called "skills" no longer required, Planet X aka Nibiru etc has become self-evident and a moot point, i.e., horror of horrors, they are forced to face that indisputable truth, their worst nightmare from which they have hidden behind their Shill's Mask of Cowardice, to wit, a big planet IS incoming, and the Shift etc are Real Coming Events (as they always knew on some level but could not face), their shillery will likely not cease. They will still trill swill, be shill. It is just that the driving motivator behind that noise will switch from a self-focused and treacherous grab-for-cash, to a self-focused and cowardly bid for self preservation, once the Red Dust Hits the Fan.

"Please, help me. What should I do? Where should I go?? I'm sorry I Shilled...please....?"

And I suppose some of us may even help you. Maybe. Good luck with that. Best to just bail out now. Leave that Treachery of Shills. Face the Truth already.

There is, after all, a Message of Hope.

Comment by ann s. on June 15, 2013 at 5:55pm

The Stage is Set!

That seven-month lack of "expose" updates by the "disgruntled" former mod already spoke louder than words.

Much was revealed by that non-action:  (1) either "disgruntled" has indeed abandoned his treacherous "debunking," or (2) the GLP account of "disgruntled" was taken over by some who do not want that "debunking" to end.

Therefore, if the shills/black ops who pose as "disgruntled" suddenly update his "expose," they will supply concrete evidence that not only is the PS Ning popular and effective, the return of Planet X must be real. 

Updating the "expose" only after it was pointed out on the PS ning will also show the online activities of human beings who actively oppose the cover-up of Planet X are carefully watched and scrutinized.  Why all the fuss unless Planet X has been in the inner solar system for years?  Why all the attacks on Nancy Lieder and ZetaTalk unless ZetaTalk is real and sharing the truth about Nibiru and many other subjects?

Note: The possibility that the "expose" will now be updated by the actual "disgruntled" moderator was not taken into account.  It is highly likely "disgruntled" would have updated the "expose" before now -- since he so vehemently opposes ZetaTalk -- yet he did not.  And it is simply too easy, most of the time, for the cover-up minions to utilize (CIA) resources that can make almost anything appear valid.

There is also the possibility the cover up cannot alter the "expose" for some unknown reason.

Signed,

Inhabitant of Earth, ZetaTalk Fan, and Proud Member of the 99%

Comment by Corey Young on June 13, 2013 at 10:59pm

Hey @ann,

Just to add to your post about Ning members having there identities stolen...recently my yahoo account (the one I use to receive updates from the Ning) was compromised. In fact I am not able to open it from a computer, and for some reason only can access it via my smartphone which is doubly weird.

Now normally I would think nothing of this, however before ths occured I was beginning to be more vocal on Yahoo message boards regarding earth changes and the establishment lies. Without blatantly stating the obvious, I would refer to certain events etc... to try and spur 'thought' in those who read it. Regardless of the Trolling my messages would recieve I stayed away from negative banter.

Lo and behold about 3 months into becoming more active my account for yahoo via computers is hacked and I cannot get in. I can't even change the password with my security question which magically was also changed.

People on this Ning should be more aware that this could happen to them as well if they become more vocal on high traffic sites like Yahoo news etc...

Thanks for all your work @ann

 

Comment by ann s. on June 12, 2013 at 11:27pm

Search Results for Earth Changes Media are Fake and Manipulated:  Proof as of June 12, 2013!

Earth Changes Media Results:

Google:  #1
Bing: #1
Yahoo:  #1
Ask:  #1
Dogpile:  #1

Earth Changes Media (Alexa Global Rank 411,038 and U.S. Rank 113,020)

Earth Changes – The Watchers (Alexa Global Rank 109,648 and U.S. Rank 85,885)

Earth Changes – The Extinction Protocol: 2012 and beyond (Alexa Global Rank 45,793 and U.S. Rank 12,833)

How can the Earth Changes Media ("ECM") site be consistently #1 in search engines?

1.  ECM is not a free site; membership is required just to read the articles.  EMC is consistently #1 compared to the other top sites that do not charge to read.  What?!

2.  ECM articles are usually the same ones posted on the other major earth changes sites, so there is nothing special about Earth Changes Media and not that much in the way of original content (unlike the PS Ning), but readers have to pay for the privilege of reading ECM.

3.  The PS Ning has Alexa Global Rank 126,584 and U.S. Rank 51,419 (which does not include zetatalk.com).

The ECM results are terrible in comparison to the PS Ning and other earth changes sites which consistently appear on the first page of search results.

The Alexa reported numbers do not justify ECM even being on the first page of results, much less #1!

Statistics Summary for earthchangesmedia.com

There are 411,037 sites with a better three-month global Alexa traffic rank than Earthchangesmedia.com. The site has a relatively good traffic rank in the city of Youngstown-Warren (#2,286). While...

Alexa Traffic Rank
Global Rank Alexa Traffic Rank
A rough estimate of earthchangesmedia.com's popularity.
United States Flag 113,020
Rank in US Traffic Rank in Country
A rough estimate of earthchangesmedia.com's popularity in a specific country.  http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/earthchangesmedia.com

 


Statistics Summary for adorraeli.com

Adorraeli.com has a three-month global Alexa traffic rank of 109,648. The site's visitors view 4.1 unique pages each day on average. Compared with the overall internet population, the site's... 

Alexa Traffic Rank
Global Rank Alexa Traffic Rank
A rough estimate of adorraeli.com's popularity.
 
 
United States Flag 85,885
Rank in US Traffic Rank in Country
A rough estimate of adorraeli.com's popularity in a specific country.
 

Statistics Summary for theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com

There are 45,792 sites with a better three-month global Alexa traffic rank than Theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com. Compared with all internet users, this site's users tend to be between the ages... 

Alexa Traffic Rank
Global Rank Alexa Traffic Rank
An estimate of theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com's popularity.
United States Flag 12,833
Rank in US Traffic Rank in Country
An estimate of theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com's popularity in a specific country.

 

Conclusion:  Mitch Battros' Earth Changes Media site is getting a whole lot of help to make it appear to be #1 when it simply cannot be the #1 earth changes site.  Mitch Battros participates in the cover up of Planet X by supplying causes for earth changes and signs in the sky other than Planet X (also known as lies).

Comment by ann s. on June 12, 2013 at 9:34pm

Not going to matter too much longer because the official Planet X announcement is inevitable. But the fact that around 4-5 former PS ning moderators have had their online identities stolen tells me the Zetas are right and the ning is making a huge difference.  Otherwise, what would be the point of paying people to post as former ning moderators?

The idea is to make it seem like these people "debunk" when in fact most of them are doing no such thing.  Desperation on the part of the cover-up crowd at GLP is obvious.

Timeline of "disgruntled" former moderator:

June 15, 2012:  Loudly leaves the PS ning (http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/disgruntled-former-moderator)

June 15, 2012:  Posts ZetaTalk "exposed" Google document

June 17, 2012 (approximate):  Starts posting on Godlikeproductions as "More about Tunnel-Vision"

October 30, 2012:  Last time "expose" updated (has not been updated in more than 7 months)

End of October 2012 (approximate): "More about Tunnel-Vision" stops posting on GLP

November 6, 2012:  Paid GLP account opened in the name "MoreAboutTunnelVision"

Please note how quickly someone found it necessary to continue posting as "disgruntled" so it appears he is still a debunker when, in fact, he has stopped debunking completely.

Why would shills frequently push the ZetaTalk "expose" when nothing new has been added since the end of October 2012?  Why has the ZetaTalk "expose" not been updated in more than 7 months?  Hasn't plenty happened that needed to be "debunked" since October 2012? 

The lack of updates does not make sense, unless shills want "disgruntled" to appear to debunk, but they cannot or will not access the Google document.  It is possible that the difficulty of writing in the style of the real "disgruntled" -- whose first langage is not English -- was determined to be too risky, so no updates posted.

Noticed the person or people who post as "MoreAboutTunnelVision" since November 2012 have a much better grasp of Standard Written English than "disgruntled."  When a person is fluent in a language, maybe it is much harder to write as someone who does not know the language well?

Whoever is posting as "MoreAboutTunnelVision" recently promised to update the "expose":  Still has not happened.  Supposedly this was going to be proof the real "disgruntled" did not depart the debunking scene.

"More about Tunnel-Vision" did not have a paid account at GLP:

More about Tunnel-Vision
User ID: 19958795
Germany
07/17/2012 07:53 PM  http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1899799/pg12

Paid GLP account opened using a screen name close to the one "disgruntled" used:

Member ID 117485
Handle MoreAboutTunnelVision
Joined On 11/6/2012 7:42 PM

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/members/117485/profile

Comment by ann s. on June 7, 2013 at 11:23pm

Some readers may wonder why the PS Ning with approximately 300 members is under almost constant attack by paid debunkers, shills, and naysayers.  Maybe the reason people are paid to attack the PS ning is because it is so popular.

The fact the PS ning is ahead of two allegedly popular earth changes sites means the PS Ning IS as popular as Nancy Lieder revealed and because it is spreading the truth about Planet X.  (Please note the results include sites that spread Establishment Lies and are banned from the PS Ning.) 

The point: The PS Ning is getting a lot of readers without paying people to manage the site, without paying people to moderate the site, without charging to read or post, and without manipulating search results.

Here is the proof from June 7, 2013.  Enjoy it while it lasts because Google cooperates with the cover up of ZetaTalk.  This is a search on Google for "earth changes."

1.  Earth Changes Media

2.  Earth Changes – The Watchers

3.  Earth Changes – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

4.  Earth Changes and the Pole Shift

5.  Earth Changes – Sott.net – Signs of the Times

6.  Earth Changes – The Extinction Protocol: 2012 and beyond 

http://www.google.com/search?q=earth+changes&sourceid=ie7&r...

Comment by Planet Twelve on June 5, 2013 at 6:34pm

@Ryan:

Hear-hear, well said and I concur wholeheartedly. In this and other incarnations, ann s. has been a Truth Warrior extraordinaire, bar none.Tenacious and persistent.

I am glad you are on our side, @Ann! Thanks!! Viva La Resistance!!!

Comment by Ryan Giorgis on June 5, 2013 at 3:27am

@ ann s.  I am so very happy that you found this platform to speak your mind.  you have obviously battled the paid shills for a long time, and I remember reading their comments on different posts and forums 15 years ago and couldn't understand why someone would say such things about information that was obviously given to us out of love and a desire to help.  I found Zetatalk  and never gave them a second look.  You, on the other hand, have continued the battle, and I, for one,  love you for it.  

  in love and light!

     

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