10,10,2010

[khan]

[Rick Rickster]

So who is flying a kite out in space? Why won't NASA just tell us the kite was their idea already!?

[Chris]

the look can vary immensely depending on the way the light catches Px. I'm not convinced it's a fake based on apparent weirdness of the tail, when we know not much about the exact way the light reflects from the complex anyway (perhaps that part of the tail did not reflect as it was curled around, or something)

We will see soon with your question anyway

[_neX_]

I send question about that to new chat.
Let's wait :)

[Beenthdonedat]

But _neX_, NASA said that this . . .

was an artifact along with a bunch of other winged globe pictures. I read it on their website somewhere. If this was just an artifact, they wouldn't tell you that to confuse you. They would tell you that to dismiss ALL images of PX, but they would have to use a real image for that, not one that was already an artifact. I would link this blog to the ZT chat and ask the Zetas.
Don't mind me if I ask for a second opinion ;)

[_neX_]

Look at the tail of this object compared with REAL Planet X of 2006 year.
It 's unnatural.
NASA wanna to confuse with this object.

[Beenthdonedat]

As far as the NASA's explanations are concerned, remember the "compression artifacts" explanation?

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue171.htm

NASA proffered an explanation to Colin Andrews, saying they are compression artifacts caused by iron (not saying where the iron is located out there in space), not really there, just an illusion, and stating that they will go in and fix those images to make all those compression artifacts go away. In other words, anticipate doctored images.

"What you're seeing are compression artifacts, highly magnified. We have to compress the images digitally in order to keep a good rate of taking them and still be able to telemeter them back (across an increasing distance, which weakens the signal and limits how much data we can send per unit time) to earth. The images you are looking at in the video are "space weather beacon mode" images that are telemetered down nearly continuously: in near-realtime, and are both binned (undersampled spatially, down to 512 x 512 pixels) and heavily, lossily compressed digitally onboard (analogous to the various JPEG compression settings on a digital camera, but much more severe). Then they're made available on the Website in a variety of magnifications or "upresings" which only magnify the artifacts. Usually, by now (that is, three days or more after the data were obtained), we'd have the full-resolution (2048 x 2048 pixel) images, which are much less heavily, but still lossily, compressed, and are played back to a Deep Space Network (DSN) ground station via the high-gain antenna on one of the STEREO spacecraft. Unfortunately, a piece of ground hardware at DSN failed, and we're only now catching up on the full-resolution data from January 18 onward - except the lower-resolution (512 x 512) beacon mode data. People first started seeing the odd images around that date, when there was a moderate solar energetic particle event, but those up-resed images have now been replaced on the SSC Website with the full resolution ones. DSN has caught us up to January 20, the last time I checked. The compression artifacts are particularly obvious when a particle (cosmic ray or solar energetic, charged particle) hits the CCD detector on the spacecraft head-on. (Grazing hits show up as bright streaks.) The compression scheme has a hard time mathematically representing sharp, single- or few-pixel features, and you get a characteristic pattern of a bright dot in the middle of a compression block (a subsection of the image) surrounded by a pattern of dark dots."
Best,
Joe Gurman
(Dr.) Joseph B. Gurman
STEREO Project Scientist
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Compression artifacts? According to the SOHO website It's just "bleeding pixels"!:
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http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/classroom/faq.html

What are those flying saucer-shaped objects in the LASCO images?

The "funny-looking spheroid" is a typical response of the SOHO LASCO coronagraph CCD detector to an object (planet or bright star) of small angular extent but so bright that it saturates the CCD camera so that "bleeding" occurs along pixel rows. There is a bright horizontal streak on either side of the image, because the charge leaks easier along the direction in which the CCD image is read out by the associated electronics.

CCD stands for charge-coupled detector, and refers to a silicon chip, usually a centimeter or two across, divided into a grid of cells, each of which acts like a small photomultiplier in that an incoming photon knocks loose one or more electrons. The electrons are "read out" by row (fast direction) and column (slow direction), the current converted to a digital signal, and each cell or picture element ("pixel") thus assigned a digital value proportional to the the number of incoming photons in that pixel (the brightness of the part of the image falling on that pixel). This is the same kind of detector as is used in a hand-held video camera, though until recently, the analog-to-digital conversion was left out in consumer devices.

If you point a video camera at a very bright source (say, the Sun), the image "blooms" or brightens all over --- there are so many electrons produced in the pixels corresponding to the bright source that they spill over into adjacent rows and column, perhaps over the entire detector. Better CCD's will "bleed" only along the fast readout direction (a single row), and perhaps a few adjacent rows.

The LASCO and EIT CCD cameras include "anti-bleed" electronics which limit the pixel bleeding around bright sources to less than the full row (and usually no adjacent rows). In the case of a marginally too-bright object, the pixel bleeding will be only a few pixels in either direction along the fast readout direction. Thus, the "flying saucer" images.

A few of the LASCO images that have appeared on the "extraterrestrial" Web sites show much larger and brighter, but still saucer-like features. These images are in fact obtained with the instrument door closed, but with an incorrectly long exposure. The big "saucers" result from massive pixel bleeding along every row of the detector containing part of the image of the "opal," or small diffusing lens, in the instrument door, that is used for obtaining calibration data.

If your correspondents still prefer to believe that the pixel-bled images of planets or bright stars are something else, ask them why the extended part of the "saucers" (i.e., the pixel bleeding) always occurs in the same direction relative to the image --- even when the spacecraft is rolled relative to its normal orientation relative to the Sun. (they are NOT, that was the first thing I checked, and the light source from the Sun ALWAYS illuminated the object's side facing it, of course when you click on the link where the pics are supposed to be, they are gone, and so is the video from YouTube) VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8POHkMQg0Dw

More discussion with images on our Hot Shots page:
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2003_01_17/

Check out these web sites for more on LASCO:
http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/lasco.html
(LASCO web site)

Flying Saucer image

Go back to TOP.

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The Zetas had lots to say about all of this, promising more drama in the future.

ZetaTalk Explanation 1/27/2010:

SOZT
Recently the Internet was abuzz with images from NASA's Stereo Behind satellite, showing what is purported to be Earth-sized objects circling and close to the Sun. The assumption was made that these objects were circling the Sun, as the traditional trajectories of round-and-round or a comet trajectory slinging slowly past the Sun were assumed. What else is there? In man's limited knowledge, there is so much about Planet X that does not fit, does not have a slot. Thus the sling orbit of Planet X past the Sun, and the Moon Swirls of Planet X have no place in mankind's knowledgebase. Even when it is obvious. Planet X is in the vicinity. As the Winged Globe showing up on a C3 images demonstrate. As the Red Cross showing up on the Stereo Ahead images demonstrate. And as numerous Moon Swirls, compete with trailing red dust tails, demonstrate. These are a few examples that have given NASA fits, as they are tasked with denying the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system.

NASA's Stereo cameras overlap, recording the areas in front of the Sun, and this is where Planet X rides at present, slightly to the right of the Sun in the view from Earth. Thus, the corpus of Planet X appears on the Stereo Ahead images on rare occasions. But the Moon Swirls can waft a long distance from the corpus of Planet X, when hosed out from the magnetic N Pole of Planet X and caught in the turmoil of conflicting magnetic fields, and thus can cross over to the area visible to the Stereo Behind camera. This is what has been sighted. These moons of Planet X are not Earth sized, though many are larger than the Earth's Moon.

We have stated that under normal circumstances for Planet X and its entourage, the large Moons in the swirls are no further from Planet X than 5 million miles. Thus, at the moment of passage when the Earth is pulled toward Planet X so as to be as close as 14 million miles, these moons will not be a danger to Earth. The 5 million mile distance is true when Planet X is out in space, subject only to its own magnetic field, or standing upright in alignment with the Sun's magnetic field. But when Planet X is in the midst of a 270° roll it is at cross currents to the Sun's magnetic field, and is engaging the Earth's magnetic field into a merged field. Thus, on occasion, these moons are blown some distance from the corpus of Planet X, due to magneton crowding. This potential does not last, ending during the last weeks when the Earth begins to stop its rotation and be drawn toward Planet X to the point where it is only some 14 millions miles away. But in the meantime, mankind can have some heart-stopping moments. If you think the current situation is drama, just wait!
EOZT

[Beenthdonedat]

I believe that the smeared image effect is artefactual, but that there is a real object causing it. Also there is a trail that differs from what the lighter/brighter image looks like and can't be altogether dismissed.
Have you gotten ZT on this _neX_ to clarify?
Because last time I checked "the artifact" explanation was on NASA's website, and you know how NASA operates =) Have you come to this conclusion on your own?