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Could the Zetas say something about the current refugee situation in Europe? If worse now, i can only imagine how it will get when the earthchanges will increase and with the announcement? 

http://www.rt.com/news/313603-migrants-dead-austria-lorry/

http://www.rt.com/op-edge/313635-migrants-refuge-middle-east/

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/28/berlin-germany-euro...

https://soundcloud.com/rttv/10-million-migrants-pressenza ( Up to 10 million migrants on their way to the EU )

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Gerard Zwaan said:

Could the Zetas say something about the current refugee situation in Europe?

If worse now, I can only imagine how it will get when the earth changes will increase and with the announcement? Up to 10 million migrants on their way to the EU.
http://www.rt.com/op-edge/313635-migrants-refuge-middle-east/
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/28/berlin-germany-euro...
[and from another]
https://soundcloud.com/rttv/10-million-migrants-pressenza
‘Up to 10 million migrants on their way to EU’
Austrian police have confirmed that between 20 and 50 refugees have been found dead in a tractor trailer in the country's east. It appears the migrants, whose bodies have begun to decompose, suffocated in the back of the truck.
[and from another]
http://www.rt.com/news/313603-migrants-dead-austria-lorry/
The victims had died from suffocation. Police suspect that a Bulgarian-Hungarian trafficking ring is behind the migrants’ deaths. The migrants were dead before the truck entered Austria. The truck, which has Hungarian license plates and was near the Hungarian capital Budapest on Wednesday, is believed to have been abandoned for several days.

SOZT
We have long predicted that the refugee crisis would exacerbate as the 7 of 10 plate movements picked up steam and the worldwide drought and deluge increased starvation. Migration from the flooding southeast Asia has been on the increase since the sinking of the Sunda Plate ensued in 2011. Australia has imposed brutal immigration policies so that Indonesia and Malaysia resettle these displaced people. The unwanted in Bangladesh and Myanmar, lands that are sinking, are increasingly pushed into boats. Smugglers have been known to sink boatloads of migrants they cannot unload, sell them into slavery, or kill and bury
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue453.htm
them on land. The increased flow of refugees and job seekers from Mexico and Central America has become a campaign issue in the US.

The Middle East has become a horror with ISIS roaming about killing the populace with abandon. Efforts to get the countries there to fight ISIS runs into the age-old religious battles between Sunni and Shia. ISIS lives between the fractures, like a sadistic horde that cannot be stopped. War torn Afghanistan and Pakistan are hardly better. These migrants do not run north into Russia or its satellites as these borders are well guarded and refuse ANY migration, a long standing practice. Word gets around, and the word has always been that Europe welcomes migrant workers, and will put immigrants on the welfare dole. Migrants, like water, will flow in the direction of least resistance.

Thus Europe finds itself the target of frightened and desperate immigrants trying to reach what they have always heard was a welcoming land of opportunity and security. They are not so much running TO security as running FROM homelessness and starvation and perhaps a brutal death at the hands of ISIS. They cross the Mediterranean in boats and then attempt to infiltrate the UK via the Chunnel. They flood into Greece from Turkey, both countries moving the flood of migrants along as quickly as possible until they pile up at the border of Austria or Hungary. Does Europe block them, creating a humanitarian crisis, absorb them, or find yet another solution for what threatens to become a flood ten million strong?

Europe has been slow to establish a policy because there simply isn’t a viable solution. A huge percentage of the world is essentially bankrupt,
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue462.htm
unable to meet the growing demands of their citizens. Governments are running scared, squeezed between economic downturns that refuses to abate and Earth changes they fear will only get worse. When asked to take in refugees, Heads of State quiet shake their heads. There are NO offers. We have predicted that countries will get increasingly strict  
http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g181.htm
when faced with a flood of refugees. Those who are already brutal will get increasingly brutal.
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/23ag2014.htm
Just where the push back occurs in Europe is yet to be seen, but it is surely coming.
EOZT

Prior ZT:  http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/23ag2014.htm
India is already at starvation levels among much of their people.  And if the populace becomes aware of steady sinking, there’s going to be panic. And there certainly will be rioting in cities to rush the enclaves of the wealthy. So to what extent will the government rise up and just blow people away? People will try to clamor into boats and go elsewhere, and will be dying at sea. Countries such as Australia will sink their boats, blast a hole in the boat, and all those Indians will be bouncing around in the waves and drown and nobody will hear of this. Australia is already brutal with immigrants, and its one step away to being heavy handed with their citizens.

Prior 2003 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g181.htm
Travel restrictions will likely be imposed by governments in response to migrations, but not until this occurs. Thus, this will vary by country, within country, and in truth is in place long before pole shift issues such as weather changes and increasing starvation occurred. The US has restrictions on immigration from Central America and Mexico, but wet backs and illegal nannies employed in the US have been a long standing problem. North Korea is starving, the starving children among the populace creeping into China to raid fields and beg food ongoing for some years. Thus, until the week going into the shift, when all controls are likely to be lifted due to distraction by those assigned to enforce the restrictions, any number of controls may be imposed, and suddenly, based on Earth changes.

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It was interesting  that Neil deGrasse was brought in on the debate. Is Hawking repositioning his theories to coincide with the Announcement or something more sinister?
[and from another]
http://www.cnet.com/news/physicist-hawking-says-theres-a-way-out-of...
In a speech in Stockholm, renowned scientist Stephen Hawking says black holes "are not the eternal prisons they were once thought." That's the easy version of his musings on the topic. 25.08.2015
[and from another]
http://www.space.com/28031-stephen-hawking-s-bad-ass-theory-neil-de...
SOZT
Is Hawking been reading ZetaTalk? At the start of the ZetaTalk saga we explained that Black Holes
http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s17.htm
are not all that dense, so that we in our space ships have found we “can escape without even making haste”. Yes, radiation escapes, but light being so very easily bent is not one of the particles that avoids the gravity pull of a Black Hole. This is another fact we have emphasized in ZetaTalk, how gravity bends light. Why is Hawkings
http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s01.htm
suddenly plagiarizing ZetaTalk concepts, describing them in math so that the common man will be impressed? ZetaTalk has been read and plagiarized by many, scientists and supposed visionaries alike. We are used to this kind of self-aggrandizing stutting by those who feel eclipsed by ZetaTalk.
EOZT

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s17.htm
What is a black hole, and does matter go in and never come out? You know about the concept of the big bang, which we have explained as setting the clock back on a part of the Universe, a type of refreshed state. The big bang requires something to bang from, and that state is what the black holes are accumulating. Do black holes consume all that they catch in their snare, and is there any escape? Black holes are voracious, but proceed slowly. So slowly, in fact, that one can escape without even making haste. This is part of God's plan, as far as we know it.

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s01.htm
Neither Albert Einstein or Stephen Hawkins are correct in their theories on the origin of the Universe, although there are portions of both theories that contain some element of truth. The Universe is not inert, subject to pressures that cause it to explode or compress back into black holes. It is no more inert than your body. It is alive. When we speak of religion, and say we are all parts of the One, that we are within God, and that the Universe is within God, we are referring to this. First, the explosion of matter from a Black Hole, which has grown monstrously large in the eons leading up to a particular Big Bang, is not even. There are literally millions of factors affecting what a bit of matter will become, and the sum of these factors affect how that bit of matter will interact for it's existence until the next Big Bang it finds itself entangled in.

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In 1994, the Hubble telescope has made an interesting picture in which to consider "the heavenly city" floating in space. Could you comment and tell what that object is and who owns it? And if it is the city, how it can be placed in space?
[and from another]
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23063-Heavenly-city-...
In 1994, a researcher was smuggled one top-secret photo the Hubble Space Telescope had taken of what is presumed to be Heaven. Weekly World News was the first to print the image and report on Dr. Masson’s findings, but despite the media coverage, NASA refused to acknowledge the existence of the photo.  That’s the word from author and researcher Marcia Masson, who quoted highly places NASA insiders as having said that the telescope beamed hundreds of photos back to the command center at Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., on December 26. The pictures clearly show a vast white city floating eerily in the blackness of space. They also confirmed that President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore have taken a keen personal interest in the photographs and have requested daily briefings. Dr. Masson said: “The Hubble Space Telescope was designed to photograph images as far away as the edge of the universe but a lens flaw prevented it from doing so until shuttle astronauts corrected the defect during a recent mission. When they finished their work, the telescope trained its enormous glass eye on the outer reaches of the universe. From what I understand, the first images it received were nothing more than kaleidoscopic bursts of color and light. As adjustments were made and the focus sharpened, NASA analysts couldn’t believe their eyes. After checking and rechecking the data, they concluded that the images were authentic.
[and from another]
http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/11684/new-hubble-images/
[and from another]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d175D-ib8u0

SOZT
What did NASA image and why is this image being withheld from public view? Of course MOST images are withheld, most certainly any that would confirm the existence of Nibiru during its closely watched approach in the years prior to 2003, and those images that would in any way imply intelligent life elsewhere. This image fell into that category. Souls do not need CITIES in which to live, as they exist without physicality, without the need for bodies or supporting environments. Nor would such a small structure as imagined in these images be sufficient for all the souls in the Universe, which is so vast it is beyond the imagination of man. Thus, all the theories purported about this supposed imaged city are absurd and merely play to the religious beliefs of some.

Since there is no link to the NASA website, the image cannot be confirmed, thus the stories can be repeated, unchallenged. Is there ANY validity to the image, as portrayed? Hubble normally takes images from a distance, covering a vast area. The reason the Hubble needed to be adjusted was that they wanted to take an image nearby – of the Nibiru complex. This was discovered on December 31, 1983 but in 1996, its inbound progress was to be determined. Thus the interest of Bill Clinton and Al Gore. The Hubble cannot take images beyond the Sun as the Sun burns the mirrors, and the Orion complex is only visible during the Winter months from the US. Thus the date of December 26, 1996 fits.

What is the supposed city seen in the image? In that any astronomer talking to the public about the validity of Nibiru and its inbound approach was routinely assassinated, meeting with an accident or a claimed suicide, those astonished NASA employees who blurted about what had been imaged in 1996 were in danger. To protect them, a false story was invented to explain the excitement around the image, and the image was altered. Yes the image is correct, no the image did NOT contain a city scape. It is not Heaven that is in the light, it is Nibiru emitting the slow smoldering light we have described. The two dominant Moon Swirls which align on either side can also be seen.
EOZT

Obama will appear on Running wild with Bear Grylls. "Obama will meet with the host in Alaska to observe the effects of climate change on the state and will also explore the Alaskan wilderness while testing his survival skills."  http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/31/politics/obama-bear-grylls-runnin...>http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/president-obama-to-run...

My take there is more too it then the news is saying. Could the Zetas say something about this?

Accepted

Gerard Zwaan said:

Obama will appear on Running wild with Bear Grylls.

My take there is more too it then the news is saying. Could the Zetas say something about this?
[and from another]
http://www.nbc.com/running-wild-with-bear-grylls
Obama will meet with the host in Alaska to observe the effects of climate change on the state and will also explore the Alaskan wilderness while testing his survival skills.
[and from another]
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-prophesies-climate-nightmare-famine...
During the GLACIER event, which stands for Global Leadership in the Arctic: Cooperation, Innovation, Engagement and Resilience, Obama blamed the recent rash of wildfires sweeping parts of Washington State on global warming, insisting that “climate is changing faster than our efforts to address it.” Overall, the speech painted a fairly doom-and-gloom outlook for America and the rest of the world.
[and from another]
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/shrinking-exit-glacier-powerful-sign-warm...
President Barack Obama walked down a winding wooded path, past a small brown post marked "1926". He reached another post reading "1951", a marker for the edge of Alaska's Exit Glacier that year, and gazed up toward where the rock-rutted ice mass has since receded, a quarter mile away. It was the signature moment of Obama's trek to Alaska, aimed at making the world pay heed to the damage already caused by rising seas, and demand global leaders reach a deal in Paris in December to curb climate-changing carbon emissions.
[and from another]
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/31/politics/obama-bear-grylls-runnin...
While on his three-day trip to Alaska - aimed at promoting climate change action - President Barack Obama will tape an episode of "Running Wild with Bear Grylls".
[and from another]
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/president-obama-to-run...
President Obama has withstood six years in the White House and a tumultuous political era, but how would he fare in the Alaska wilderness? Television audiences will find out later this year when Mr. Obama appears on an episode of “Running Wild With Bear Grylls,” the NBC survival series.  President Obama will become the first U.S. president to receive a crash course in survival techniques from Bear Grylls.
SOZT
We have stated that blaming the Earth changes (such as erratic weather and rising seas) on man’s carbon emissions would not be dropped after the announcement, as the courts would be clogged with lawsuits demanding that carbon footprint taxes and industry changes be lifted, and compensation result. Thus, the fact that Global Warming was a deliberate cover for the Earth changes caused by Nibiru will never be admitted, officially, even after Nibiru itself is admitted. Obama is making this point, just ahead of the announcement, by traveling to Alaska to literally touch a melting glacier.  

But there is no relationship between melting glaciers and wilderness survival techniques, so why the nexus in the news? Obama knows the announcement is to occur soon, and also knows from many government scientists who monitor the N American continent that the New Madrid is about to rupture. It is obvious that the Caribbean Plate is being pushed westward, and the weather extremes are making the public worldwide increasingly nervous. When Obama personally encourages the public to be upbeat about surviving catastrophe, he wants to be taken seriously. After all, he got down with Bear Grylls!
EOZT

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This object or phenomena has generated quite a stir online. Many have dismissed this as a missile of some sort. A meteor? Or even UFO? I can't help but wonder if this is Earth Changes related? Would the Zetas care to comment please?
[and from another]
UFO Spiral Over Miami, Sept 2, 2015
http://youtu.be/Ek5yVSoX8wE
[and from another]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2d5_1441262476

[and from another]
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/space/go-for-launch/os-atlas-v-...
The Atlas V rocket lifted off from Cape Canaveral and blasted into space. A United Launch Alliance Atlas V blasted into space Wednesday morning carrying a Navy communications satellite and creating a spectacular light show that had some people wrongly worried that the rocket had blown up. The launch was so bright it was seen across Florida, from St. Petersburg to Key West. That prompted the National Weather Service Office in Miami put out a tweet advising people that what they were witnessing was the Atlas V launch, not a meteor or other event. About five minutes after launch, the second-stage ignition created a huge, bright-white cloud backlit by the first rays of sunrise.

SOZT
Where the undulating neon circle over Miami is not technically a spiral, it is the remnant of a spiral. As we mentioned during the 2009 Norway spiral,  
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta551.htm
when greasy elements in the charged tail of Planet X, aka Nibiru, create a chemical light mixture, they glow. The swirling motion is caused by the electrical charge in the air, as the tail of Planet X is charged, thus causing so much electro-magnetic pulse disruption in mankind’s infrastructure lately. Just as with the 2009 Norway spiral, where it was later claimed to be the result of a Russian rocket launch, the establishment here is trying to make a similar claim. The Miami swirl is not from a rocket launch at Cape Canaveral, which is at a significant distance. Nor do clouds glow long after the launch. Do these swirls routinely happen during the frequent rocket launches from Cape Canaveral?

EOZT

Prior 2009 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta551.htm
The Norway display is akin to the neon clouds seen on occasion since Planet X arrived in the inner solar system in 2003 and the grease in the tail of Planet X has polluted the Earth's atmosphere. The neon appearance is caused by a chemical reaction, akin to man's familiar light sticks. Up until recently, such neon displays required a light source in order to be seen, lit in the dawn or dusk by sunlight or the lights from a city. What has occurred over Norway is a neon cloud, a grease cloud, lit by the electrical charge from the tail of Planet X.

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This is all over in the media! Is it real?
[and from another]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/09/0...
This is interesting. The image, taken by the Curiosity rover on Aug. 30, shows what appears to be an incredibly delicate geological feature - one that resembles a spoon floating in mid-air, complete with a narrow shadow cast upon the red ground below. The strange feature was spotted by a user on the Planetary Society's Unmanned Spaceflight message board.

SOZT
As is obvious from the surround terrain, the “spoon” [2] is not unique for this location. The spoon handle [3] extends to the right, embedded in the ground, and a similar long stick is seen at the left [1].  There are other such sticks [4] aligned with the spoon stick, some of which also have shadows. What is this? We have confirmed that the Annunaki brought wood to Mars
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue108.htm
in the past, and where this was used to support Gold mining operations where the ore was washed with water, remnants would be left. Clearly this area was water washed, and clearly these are sticks of wood.   
EOZT

As is our usual practice, we are closing this 9/5 Q&A so answers can be prepared for the web. Please post your new questions on the Q&A for 9/12/ Thank you.

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