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This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

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Dear Nancy and Zetas,

I've been curious about this for a while and have known other old souls that also like it. What is it about human skull imagery that is so fascinating and likeable? What is it about older souls and images of (human) skulls that they like? Regardless of if they are Terran born or not. Not including myself but others, even young kids who I know have an older soul, like (human) skull imagery. Regardless if it's just a 2D image or some form of a 3D skull. I've even had a 3D printed skull of my own skull and found it utterly fascinating. I'm not sure how to exactly pose the question other than what is it about older souls and the fascination of (human) skull imagery? Can the Zeta's give comment or insight about it? Time and time again I find this common.

Thank You!

Declined as how better to state that the bones or whatever are HUMAN. Leg or hip bones just don't carry the same clarity. It is common in our symbolism for that reason. Early man no doubt pointed to a skull and said "grunt grunt" meaning this was a human.

OrdinaryDragon said:

Dear Nancy and Zetas,

I've been curious about this for a while and have known other old souls that also like it. What is it about human skull imagery that is so fascinating and likeable? What is it about older souls and images of (human) skulls that they like? Regardless of if they are Terran born or not. Not including myself but others, even young kids who I know have an older soul, like (human) skull imagery. Regardless if it's just a 2D image or some form of a 3D skull. I've even had a 3D printed skull of my own skull and found it utterly fascinating. I'm not sure how to exactly pose the question other than what is it about older souls and the fascination of (human) skull imagery? Can the Zeta's give comment or insight about it? Time and time again I find this common.

Thank You!

Thanks, I believe I understand it now.

Accepted via email:

Would ZetaTalk team care to comment?
[and from another]
http://m.heraldextra.com/news/local/south/spanish-fork/spanish-fork...
When firefighters and police officers arrived at the scene, near the junction of Main Street and Arrowhead Trail Road, they began wondering how to roll the car over from its upside-down position where it rested partially submerged in the slow moving water.  Lily was in the car for 14 hours. The large vehicle was a Dodge four-door passenger car, and at the time they had no idea what or who was in the car. The river water was eight inches deep from the top of the car. “It was at that time we heard a distinct female voice from the car saying, ‘help me, help us,’ and that is when we said, ‘We’re trying to help you. We’re trying our best to get you out,’” said Officer Tyler Beddoes with the Spanish Fork Police Department. Four officers turned the car over, not an easy task since the vehicle wasn’t economy size. The firefighters climbed onto the top of the car to pry the door open. What they found after looking into the vehicle was a woman who looked like she died on impact in the driver seat, and a toddler who was unconscious and not breathing. The 18-month-old infant was strapped into her child safety seat. Warner was wearing a body camera and has seen the video. He said you can see them respond to the voice that created the sense of urgency to overturn the car and rescue Lily. The Daily Herald has requested a copy of the body camera video and Lt. Matt Johnson said it will likely take 10 days before the request is answered. Lily is in stable but critical condition at Primary Children’s Hospital in Salt Lake City. She was airlifted to the facility after being transported by ambulance to Mountain View Hospital in Payson.
[and from another]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html
Did dead mother save her baby from beyond the grave? Three US cops claim mystery 'woman's voice' called to them from flooded car where they found baby alive beside her mother's body. The four officers who rescued an 18-month-old toddler from the wreck of a submerged car on Sunday said they launched into their heroics when they heard desperate pleas for help coming from a woman inside.
But when the four men used all their strength to right the red Dodge sedan, they found little Lily Groesbeck to be the only passenger left alive in the vehicle. Her mother, 25-year-old Lynn Jennifer Groesbeck, had passed away the night before when she lost control of the car and could not possibly have called for the men to help save her child. A firefighter jumped into the river and cut the straps, freeing the blond baby girl who was wearing only a flannel onesie and no hat or gloves. Nobody knows exactly how the infant survived hanging upside down for nearly 14 hours in her car seat with no food or water. As she dangled, icy water rushed just below her head through broken car windows as the Dodge Caliber sat perched on the bank and rocks. The temperatures were near freezing throughout the night and through the morning.



SOZT
With several firefighters and police testifying that they heard a woman’s voice calling from the overturned car, there can be no doubt. Were they all temporarily insane? Was there a woman on the river bank or bridge throwing her voice? This motivated the men, who threw themselves into the freezing water with such enthusiasm that several of them had to be treated for hypothermia. Yet the mother was long dead, and the 18 month old infant, unconscious and cold, incapable of speaking the words “help me”. Was this a case of the mother’s spirit pleading for her infant to be rescued?
Many such instances are of record, but proof of the spirit’s voice or form never seems to be solidly at hand. This is a spirit to spirit communication, with the rescuers receiving this message from their souls. We have mentioned that ghosts, or spirits, communicate in this manner, so that those seeing a ghost are not actually seeing something with their eyes, or hearing with their ears, but rather their brain matter is influenced to perceive
http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b23.htm
this by the indwelling soul.  Thus, the video recordings of the rescue will not record a voice. Nevertheless, the public, hearing this story, senses the truth of it.
EOZT

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b23.htm
Ghosts often show themselves to humans in a form that the human remembers. This is not a willful act on the part of the ghost, it is the way the human’s mind perceives the ghost based on the fact that they understand they are communicating with someone they knew. The mind plays tricks where the human see what he expects to see or hopes to see. This form is shaped in the mind of the human as it fits with all the circumstances of the conversation between souls that is taking place. The human has formed this image from memory, but because this memory is swarming about, chemically speaking, with all the other circumstances of the encounter, it merges in the mind of the human. The entity that feels an issue is unresolved will hang about, desiring to influence proceedings. This is much displayed in your media in ghost stories of one kind or another.

Good day Nancy and our friends. I read the article above, where a small child miraculously survived after the accident, and would like to ask such question. According to statistics, about 35% of the world's population are children under the age of 14 years. I also have a little daughter of 6 years. And I thought a lot about how children survive the hard times of the pole shift. The situations may be different - adults can do not to prepare, to be in an unsafe place, to throw children, or they may be lost, the parents die, etc. Previously, our friends have described The Lift. If I was in a deadly situation with my or someone else's child, and for children was proposed The Lift, I would not hesitate gave the child. But not clear, who decides, and how will be occur The Lift for small children, as many parents can keep quite small infants in their arms, or they may be in maternity hospitals. Children can be your or someone else's, away from their parents, and how then they will return after The Lift to his parents? Parents and children may be different orientation, parents can die after shift, etc. Could our friends to explain all this?

Thanks in advance

Accepted

Andrey Eroshin said:

I read the article above, where a small child miraculously survived after the accident, and would like to ask such question.

According to statistics, about 35% of the world's population are children under the age of 14 years. I also have a little daughter of 6 years. And I thought a lot about how children survive the hard times of the pole shift. The situations may be different - adults can do not to prepare, to be in an unsafe place, to throw children, or they may be lost, the parents die, etc. Previously, our friends have described The Lift. If I was in a deadly situation with my or someone else's child, and for children was proposed The Lift, I would not hesitate gave the child. But not clear, who decides, and how will be occur The Lift for small children, as many parents can keep quite small infants in their arms, or they may be in maternity hospitals. Children can be your or someone else's, away from their parents, and how then they will return after The Lift to his parents? Parents and children may be different orientation, parents can die after shift, etc. Could our friends to explain all this?

SOZT
There is much confusion about children – infants and young children – and their interaction with benign aliens. Conferences with the indwelling soul occur during all ages, and these conferences
http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v36.htm
can include conferring with the Service-to-Self as well as the Service-to-Other. The only restriction in this regards is to the physical environment, where the Service-to-Self are not allowed to manipulate this in order to intimidate the young human. In that the quality of the soul is known, and a human infant can hold a mature Service-to-Other soul, an infant can and will be given the offer of a lift
http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t55.htm
during the hour of the Pole Shift so their physical life not be ended.  

Of course, the vast majority of children on Earth currently have unsparked souls, or are undecided, so do not warrant an offer of a lift. As with all human life on Earth during the Pole Shift, they will either survive to live out their life in the Aftertime, or die to move onto the water planet where undecided souls from Earth will be transplanted into baby octopi. Unsparked souls, whether in human infants or adults, will dissipate upon death, as is the norm during spiritual development on all 3rd density worlds. Those souls who are judged to be Service-to-Self will be transplanted to prison planets upon death, and this includes any such souls that may be incarnated in human infants at the time.

What of children and infants during the Aftertime, when so many will be orphans or surviving in desperate situations? If these children and infants are highly Service-to-Other, incarnated with these souls, they will get an assist
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/02ap2011.htm
from benign aliens (as was done during the Sumatra and Fukushima tsunamis and Haiti earthquake). They will live in high tech domes with ourselves and other benign aliens so they can participate in rescue and cleanup operations afterwards. But if not deemed worthy of this treatment, they will be left to live out their lives as life on Earth presents today for infants and children. The Transformation facilitates life for those in the Service-to-Other, but does not interfere with life otherwise. Those are the rules.
EOZT

Prior 1996 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v36.htm
Cases where youngsters have been harmed by contact with aliens in the Service-to-Others orientation are nonexistent, nosebleeds and interrupted sleep notwithstanding. Those in the Service-to-Self are not allowed to affect the physical environment of a child, as given their nature they would surely attempt to maximize terror in those too young to have perspective. They are only allowed to answer The Call from a youngster on an intellectual basis - a conference. From our perspective, as Service-to-Other visitors, contact with children is no different from contact with adults. We are essentially speaking to the entity, the spirit within. From our perspective, dealing with humans is to some degree like dealing with children anyway.

Prior 1996 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t55.htm
There is much confusion about the Lift, its purpose and execution. This is greatly mixed up, in human minds, with the parental image, someone taking care of them. The Lift is not intended to take a Service-to-Other person to safety, it is intended to prevent them from dying, as they wish to continue their incarnation and do work toward the good in the Aftertime.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/02ap2011.htm
We confirmed that highly Service-to-Other humans were rescued during the devastating earthquake that struck Haiti, where so many dead needed to be buried that mass graves were the only option. Under ordinary circumstances, where these humans were facing certain death, they would be merely moved to their next incarnation, in this case into hybrid bodies, as infants in the high tech hybrid communities. In essence, the souls of these highly Service-to-Other human have been given the choice to remain in human form, the better to serve their fellow man during the time near at hand, the time of the pole shift. Certainly, a hybrid infant could do little. But in human form, speaking the language and knowing the culture, these souls could assist others greatly. We can certainly confirm that the same situation existed during the great quake that struck northern Japan recently. Those missing are presumed washed out to sea. No recovery is possible. Those taken in human form and given the choice of remaining in human form are those who would otherwise be dead.

Good day Nancy and our friends. Thank you for the answers in the chat. I would like to ask another question. In one of the film series "Ancient Aliens" tells about the strange pit on Oak Island in Canada. Wikipedia has an article. It is called money pit, as many believe that there is buried treasure. But the filmmakers say that the pit was built by aliens who visited or lived on the Earth in the past. They say, that it is a tricky system of flooded this pit. There is even a theory of the nuclear reactor, and I realized that this could be similar to the reactor in Yakutia. Scientists claim that pit is natural origin. Could our friends to explain this riddle?

Thanks in advance

@Andrey- Zetas previously said it was not alien-made.


http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta522.htm

Hi Kris, I searched for the answer in chat and did not find, thanks, the question is removed



Kris H said:

@Andrey- Zetas previously said it was not alien-made.


http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta522.htm

The Zetas have said that there will not be something like a new world war. And, they have also stated that the nukes have been, or may be, easily disarmed. But I am very concerned about this : http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/03/11/4314  US-NATO keep surrounding Russia with troops and equipment. Under current circumstances, any little spark may ignite a full out war, starting with perhaps limited skirmishes or even a false flag operation. And both sides are able to use their
nukes as/if they see themselves defeated while using just conventional arms. On the other side, the Euro has just fallen, while the US Dollar seems to be doomed based on the opinion of several analysts. And some hawks in the US seem
to be cases of a ¨General Custer complex¨, willing to go to war against Russia, and fall into the trap there, then having to face very capable warriors, by their genetics, used to face adversity, hunger and cold. Kind of John Wayne is back. Regarding a time table, it is quite possible that the New Madrid Adjustment stops all of this nonsense before it goes too far. And it is also possible that the New Madrid Adjustment requires an State of Emergency declared in the US, and then
Obama might have to stay in office for some time beyond his regular term. Many processes seem to be pointing to the end of 2015, going into 2016. Military moves, the economy, unemployment, the debt, etc, seem to be heading to such
time table, just as if someone had everything very well calculated. Would the Zetas like to comment?

Accepted

Jorge said:

The Zetas have said that there will not be something like a new world war.

And, they have also stated that the nukes have been, or may be, easily disarmed. But I am very concerned about this. US-NATO keep surrounding Russia with troops and equipment. Under current circumstances, any little spark may ignite a full out war, starting with perhaps limited skirmishes or even a false flag operation. And both sides are able to use their nukes as/if they see themselves defeated while using just conventional arms. On the other side, the Euro has just fallen, while the US Dollar seems to be doomed based on the opinion of several analysts. And some hawks in the US seem to be cases of a ¨General Custer complex¨, willing to go to war against Russia, and fall into the trap there, then having to face very capable warriors, by their genetics, used to face adversity, hunger and cold. Kind of John Wayne is back. Regarding a time table, it is quite possible that the New Madrid Adjustment stops all of this nonsense before it goes too far. And it is also possible that the New Madrid Adjustment requires a State of Emergency declared in the US, and then Obama might have to stay in office for some time beyond his regular term. Many processes seem to be pointing to the end of 2015, going into 2016. Military moves, the economy, unemployment, the debt, etc, seem to be heading to such time table, just as if someone had everything very well calculated. Would the Zetas like to comment?
[and from another]
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/03/11/4314
The US-NATO expansion of the conflict in Ukraine is indeed a declaration of war against Russia.  And from what I can make out the Russian people see the writing on the wall - they can hear the train coming.  Sadly the American people have no clue what is going on nor do most of those in Europe.

SOZT
We warned that during the Transformation, there would be increasing polarization of the orientations. This does not simply mean that people fraternize with each other. For Service-to-Other individuals and those leaning in this direction polarization means and increased outreach to help others and becoming more outspoken in defense of the downtrodden. Among those in the Service-to-Self and those leaning in this direction, the claws come out. They become emboldened as they sense they are losing ground, losing the Earth, and like trapped animals their actions increasingly appear to be a snarl.   

False flag operations are nothing new but recently it has been the West and Israel that have utilized them. 911 was a false flag operation, an inside job, to allow the Bush administration an excuse to invade the Middle East and hopefully capture control of all the oil reserves there. This did not work out as hoped by this crowd, but Netanyahu is still trying to sculpt a scenario where the US military secures Middle East oil and he can be the local overseer. Israel has the bomb, and to date no Arab countries do. As Netanyahu loses power, he has become extreme, flying to the US to encourage Congress to ignore and override Obama. He cannot accept that his ambitions will not be realized.

Europe is characterized by royalty, a history in the past of being colonialists, invading and mastering many lands abroad. The Americas and Africa and India were colonies of European countries, and many have never forgotten their status. World War I and II were waged due to the ambitions of a European country. Diminishing in influence as the colonies attained independence, Europe sought for strength in unity in the European Union and Euro, but this setup is imploding. Russia had its own overreach and implosion, but has stabilized and combined with a strong partnership with China is self-sufficient. This is not true of Europe, which relies on Russian gas. Russia is aware that Europe wants to push into their oil and gas fields just over the border from the Ukraine, and this is the basis of the Ukraine turmoil. Europe cannot accept their dependent status.

We have from the start of the Ukraine turmoil pointed to Kiev as the source of the problem. A Russian leaning president was overthrown, incited by those in Europe wanting NATO and the US to push into the oil and gas fields just to the east. Putin countered and secured the Crimea. Then Kiev shot down MH 17
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue409.htm
with their fighter jets, a fact in clear evidence by the 30 mm ammunition   
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue412.htm
holes in the cockpit. Heads of state in Europe know this, but except for a Daily Mail article
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue438.htm
providing these facts to the public, the rhetoric has been that somehow it is all Russia’s fault. When Kiev was pressed to pay for the Russian gas it was using, Nemtsov was assassinated.  
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/07mr2015.htm

Will this all lead to war? We predicted that sabre rattling would increase, but World War III
http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c23.htm
would not develop leading into the Pole Shift. This is not due to a lack of fervor among the Service-to-Self. Their ambitions and greed has not been extinguished.  It is their inability to exact enough control over others to press forward. Obama is in the White House and refuses to go to war for Netanyahu, and even the Republican Congress would not approve such a war. The US is bankrupt. Europe and NATO are bankrupt. The snarling and gnashing of teeth among the polarized Service-to-Self who wish it otherwise is only noise. See it as that.
EOZT

Prior 1996 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c23.htm
There has been much speculation about a possible World War III because of phrases in the Bible and interpretations of some of Nostradamus' quatrains. Let us restate that outside of plans in the hearts and minds of humans now living, there is nothing that will affect the future of the Earth or the affairs of man. The future is not written as yet. The potential for a nuclear holocaust is with you today, and even with the promising disarmament steps being taken, and even in the event of total disarmament among all the super powers, this threat would still exist as it takes but a single fanatic with the intelligence and resources to compile an atom bomb to create this scenario. The reader should not slack off in their efforts to promote world peace, feeling that all may be naught due to prophecies. The future is written only in the hearts and minds of those now living. It is up to you.

I would like to add to the Jorge question if have time. Obama's term comes to an end, and the Republicans are already making the claim that as if Obama already is not a President, and their candidate becomes president. Do I understand correctly that the elite hinting that they need to hold out against the Council of Worlds just only until new elections next year? and are ready for this to go on everything, even on war?



Nancy Lieder said:

Accepted

Jorge said:

The Zetas have said that there will not be something like a new world war.

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