ZetaTalk Chat for June 30, 2012

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[bill]

Hi Nancy,

Can rain and flood cause all these damages in Duluth or this is part of the various seaway adjustments, in this case ripping at the weak point of Duluth?

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3863141%3ABlogPost%...

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

bill said:

Hi Nancy,

Can rain and flood cause all these damages in Duluth or this is part of the various seaway adjustments, in this case ripping at the weak point of Duluth?

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3863141%3ABlogPost%...

[Andrey]

Hello, Nancy and Zeta's!
1. Already few years I watch circles on fields and usually they started to appear in May. Now the end of June, and the real circles isn't present. Can tell, what happened? Why them ceased to draw?

2. Similarly if it is possible that with your alien activity - isn't enough video for 2012. Why activity fell down?

Thanks in advance, I hope the matters Q/A aren't beyond.

[SongStar101]

With the existance of the mainstream information funnels upheld by the 1% PTB,  is it even possible for the common man to pick themselves up,  dust themselves off and start their own promotional campaign about the PS and the ZT message?  How long will the common man have to wait while they watch the common man suffer such as the Rohingya boat people in Bangladesh recently? To see their faces suffereing is very revealing of the coverup,  given that they could easily have prepared themselves for what was in process and pending with ZT accuracy predictions.  Is there not much difference the common man can make at this point in terms of promotion of the ZT message to the world?  Is it even realistic for the common man to start an aggressive promotional campaign of the PS and ZT given the forces of the coverup in place around the world?  What are the chances of the 99% making even a small slight difference to help the worlds populations prepare?  By the common man promoting the message to the world,  could this be a way to sow peace among nations?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. I'm not sure I understand your Q2 but will assume is relates to Q1. You are asking if the aliens are too busy for CC this year, I think.

Andrey said:

Hello, Nancy and Zeta's!
1. Already few years I watch circles on fields and usually they started to appear in May. Now the end of June, and the real circles isn't present. Can tell, what happened? Why them ceased to draw?

2. Similarly if it is possible that with your alien activity - isn't enough video for 2012. Why activity fell down?

Thanks in advance, I hope the matters Q/A aren't beyond.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. I think this is happening via the contactee route, as almost everyone has had contact and meet on space ships and the like. But how does this translate to the open mouth, etc? Subconscious knowledge to the open mouth.

SongStar101 said:

With the existance of the mainstream information funnels upheld by the 1% PTB,  is it even possible for the common man to pick themselves up,  dust themselves off and start their own promotional campaign about the PS and the ZT message?  How long will the common man have to wait while they watch the common man suffer such as the Rohingya boat people in Bangladesh recently? To see their faces suffereing is very revealing of the coverup,  given that they could easily have prepared themselves for what was in process and pending with ZT accuracy predictions.  Is there not much difference the common man can make at this point in terms of promotion of the ZT message to the world?  Is it even realistic for the common man to start an aggressive promotional campaign of the PS and ZT given the forces of the coverup in place around the world?  What are the chances of the 99% making even a small slight difference to help the worlds populations prepare?  By the common man promoting the message to the world,  could this be a way to sow peace among nations?

[astrogal50]

[Certainly understand if this is too political.  Thanks, Nancy and the Zetas.]

Although this falls in the realm of politics, this question is about a conspiracy theory appearing all over the internet that could affect the presidential election in November.

If there is something to House Speaker Boehner's allegations that the White House is involved in a cover up of the "Fast and Furious" gun program, then why is House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa sometimes saying differently?  Would the Zetas care to comment on this situation?

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WASHINGTON -- House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) contradicted House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) on Sunday, saying that Congress has found no evidence that President Barack Obama or anyone at the White House had participated in a cover-up involving the Fast and Furious scandal.

On Thursday, Boehner said that the Obama administration's decision to invoke executive privilege to prevent the release of some documents about the program Issa had requested was "an admission that White House officials were involved in the decision that misled the Congress and covered up the truth."

During an appearance on "Fox News Sunday," host Chris Wallace asked Issa whether he had "any evidence" that the White House had been involved with the matter.

"No, we don't," Issa said.

The Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms apparently allowed some gun sales in Arizona to known Mexican crimi.... Two of the guns involved were found at the scene of a firefight in which U.S. Customs Agent Brian Terry was killed.

In February 2011, DOJ sent a letter to Congress denying such sales, but retracted that claim in December. It is not clear if either Attorney General Eric Holder or President Barack Obama were aware of the program, and Issa acknowledged Sunday that he has not found evidence Holder was involved.

"I did not say that Eric Holder always knew," Issa said.

But the investigation has devolved into a bizarre, complex conspiracy theory, which Issa and other congressional Republicans have suggested the Obama administration hatched in order to impose new gun control regulations. By inciting gun violence in Mexico, the theory goes, the administration hoped to spark a controversy that would build public support for gun control.

In April, Issa presented the case at a National Rifle Association conference.

"Could it be that what they really were thinking of was in fact to use this walking of guns in order to promote an assault weapons ban? Many think so," Issa said at the time. "And they haven't come up with an explanation that would cause any of us not to agree."

He defended the conspiracy theory Sunday on ABC's "This Week," saying that emails about the aftermath of Fast and Furious indicate that people reviewing the results of the program had the power to inform new regulatory actions. That does not, however, mean that the program was developed for the purpose of imposing gun control rules. President George W. Bush's administration opposed gun control, and it used similar programs to track criminal groups.

"We have emails from people who are involved in this who are talking about using what they're finding to support an assault weapons ban," Issa said. "So chicken or egg, which came first, we'll probably never know."

Issa also acknowledged on the show that previous gun-walking cases occurred during the Bush administration, but said the practice went further under Obama.

"It started under Bush, was closed up under Bush, reopened under President Obama, and in fact got to be on steroids," he said.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/24/darrell-issa-john-boehner-...

[brian glover]

Hello everyone, Nancy and Zetas, 

I live in Los Angeles, today is June 25, 2012.  I come to a cafe' every morning at 5:30 am and the sun is still behind the mountains and is very dark.  This morning it was very bright at 5:30 am and was light when I got to the cafe'.  Is this because of the wobble?  Since the earth's rotation is going to be affected by PX is it possible that the rotation is being affected as we speak? 

Thanks for all and love to all, 

Brian

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. Seems a far reach, indeed.

astrogal50 said:

[Certainly understand if this is too political.  Thanks, Nancy and the Zetas.]

Although this falls in the realm of politics, this question is about a conspiracy theory appearing all over the internet that could affect the presidential election in November.

If there is something to House Speaker Boehner's allegations that the White House is involved in a cover up of the "Fast and Furious" gun program, then why is House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa sometimes saying differently?  Would the Zetas care to comment on this situation?

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[Nancy Lieder]

It's the wobble. Rotation is not slowing that rapidly. I measured the Sun at sunrise a couple days ago as it seemed way North and it was at 16 degrees Azumuth too far north! WAY too far north. The wobble does not seem utterly consistent, moving about somewhat. But its the wobble. Declined as nothing new for the Z's to address.

brian glover said:

Hello everyone, Nancy and Zetas, 

I live in Los Angeles, today is June 25, 2012.  I come to a cafe' every morning at 5:30 am and the sun is still behind the mountains and is very dark.  This morning it was very bright at 5:30 am and was light when I got to the cafe'.  Is this because of the wobble?  Since the earth's rotation is going to be affected by PX is it possible that the rotation is being affected as we speak? 

Thanks for all and love to all, 

Brian

[Sergey Anfelso]

New CC at Milk Hill, nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire. Reported 25th June. Seems this shows the Planet X and looks truely?
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/milkhill/milkhill2012a.html

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. But I am not sure about this one either. Get the feeling that ... we shall see.

Sergey Anfelso said:

New CC at Milk Hill, nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire. Reported 25th June. Seems this shows the Planet X and looks truely?
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/milkhill/milkhill2012a.html