ZetaTalk Chat for June 2, 2012

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Planet Twelve]

It would appear that NASA, and it's overlord bosses the Establishment "elite", have cranked up an old campaign i.e. "Something Lurking Outside Neptune". Nothing new, trotted out before by the Coverup minions, and of course addressed by ZT, during the "Tyche" campaign etc:

SOZT: We predicted that as the proof of our predictions began unfolding with great drama, which is what is occurring with our 7 of 10 predictions, that the clamor of disinformation would rise in step. Tyche is an example. Once again, they are pointing off into space, rather than at the monster which arrived in 2003 and which is right next door, almost as close as the planet Venus. Standing in plain sight, causing Second Sun sightings or blazing Moon Swirl sightings, naked eye and on film, it is ignored by the establishment which prefers to point out into dark space and focus on yet another theory. NASA and JPL went looking for Nemisis in the early 1980's, and found not the Sun's dark binary but a traveling planet that is in a sling orbit with both its suns. Known as Nibiru by the ancients, and dubbed Planet X at that time by NASA and JPL, is has been ignored in the press while replacements are given the spotlight. All to confuse and distract the populace and arrange for their comfort during the cover-up. That the populace, whom they are lying to, will soon be in pain is not their concern, apparently. EOZT.

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/21ma2011.htm

There was also the Sedna campaign. Mere bait-and-switch attempts by the Coverup et al, trying to re-direct the attention of the Common Man out to the Solar System nether regions when they knew PX was rounding the Sun to come inside Planet Earth's orbit. Not out past Neptune or whatever.

Well, they have dragged this story back up, dusted it off and given it a new suit to be presented, nay, trumpeted from every mainstream news publication they can think of...

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/05/120511-new-planet-s...

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/75208.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/324934   (to name but a few)

Also dutifully reported in a blog here on the PoleShift Ning: http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/establishment-lie-returns-...

Nancy, this is of course not all that new. Establishment Coverup doing what they do ad nausea. However, talk in some reports of Nemesis, and then concurrent to the above mentioned bells-and-whistles publication of the supposed new planet discovery, stories surface discussing Rogue Planets http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/4777/nomads-of-the-galaxy, that which not so long ago NASA, the universitys and others acquiescent to the Coverup would not even admit exist, before backflipping, lead many of us to suspect that this may all be leading to something.

Would the Zetas please revisit this?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. And will post early on the Establishment Lie blog re this.

Planet Twelve said:

It would appear that NASA, and it's overlord bosses the Establishment "elite", have cranked up an old campaign i.e. "Something Lurking Outside Neptune". Nothing new, trotted out before by the Coverup minions, and of course addressed by ZT, during the "Tyche" campaign etc:

SOZT: We predicted that as the proof of our predictions began unfolding with great drama, which is what is occurring with our 7 of 10 predictions, that the clamor of disinformation would rise in step. Tyche is an example. Once again, they are pointing off into space, rather than at the monster which arrived in 2003 and which is right next door, almost as close as the planet Venus. Standing in plain sight, causing Second Sun sightings or blazing Moon Swirl sightings, naked eye and on film, it is ignored by the establishment which prefers to point out into dark space and focus on yet another theory. NASA and JPL went looking for Nemisis in the early 1980's, and found not the Sun's dark binary but a traveling planet that is in a sling orbit with both its suns. Known as Nibiru by the ancients, and dubbed Planet X at that time by NASA and JPL, is has been ignored in the press while replacements are given the spotlight. All to confuse and distract the populace and arrange for their comfort during the cover-up. That the populace, whom they are lying to, will soon be in pain is not their concern, apparently. EOZT.

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/21ma2011.htm

There was also the Sedna campaign. Mere bait-and-switch attempts by the Coverup et al, trying to re-direct the attention of the Common Man out to the Solar System nether regions when they knew PX was rounding the Sun to come inside Planet Earth's orbit. Not out past Neptune or whatever.

Well, they have dragged this story back up, dusted it off and given it a new suit to be presented, nay, trumpeted from every mainstream news publication they can think of...

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/05/120511-new-planet-s...

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/75208.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/324934   (to name but a few)

Nancy, this is of course not all that new. Establishment Coverup doing what they do ad nausea. However, talk in some reports of Nemesis, and then concurrent to the above mentioned bells-and-whistles publication of the supposed new planet discovery, stories surface discussing Rogue Planets http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/4777/nomads-of-the-galaxy, that which not so long ago NASA, the universitys and others acquiescent to the Coverup would not even admit exist, before backflipping, lead many of us to suspect that this may all be leading to something.

Would the Zetas please revisit this?

[wanderer]

Africa and Australasia to share Square Kilometre Array

South Africa, Australia and New Zealand will host the biggest radio telescope ever built.

I sense this is a big hint towards the establishment being aware of the locations that fair better in the aftertime through ZetaTalk and would be very interested to read what our brothers and sisters have to add. Thank you.

[Kris H]

Hi Nancy,

The Zetas said previously that they would not detail the 8/10 events until after the European tsunami, because then they would "have our full attention". With the recent hints that the New Madrid and Euro-tsunami events may be somewhat lessened from the original prediction, do the Zetas expect to still "have our full attention" at that point? And if not, will they discuss the 8/10 or keep it a surprise? Perhaps if the coverup breaks before the Euro-tsunami and Nancy is in the media these details could come sooner as well?

Thanks.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. Or it is the view from the "southern skies".

wanderer said:

Africa and Australasia to share Square Kilometre Array

South Africa, Australia and New Zealand will host the biggest radio telescope ever built.

I sense this is a big hint towards the establishment being aware of the locations that fair better in the aftertime through ZetaTalk and would be very interested to read what our brothers and sisters have to add. Thank you.

[Nancy Lieder]

Yes, that's a likely conclusion, but the Zetas are still holding this close at this time. Thus declined.

Kris H said:

Hi Nancy,

The Zetas said previously that they would not detail the 8/10 events until after the European tsunami, because then they would "have our full attention". With the recent hints that the New Madrid and Euro-tsunami events may be somewhat lessened from the original prediction, do the Zetas expect to still "have our full attention" at that point? And if not, will they discuss the 8/10 or keep it a surprise? Perhaps if the coverup breaks before the Euro-tsunami and Nancy is in the media these details could come sooner as well?

Thanks.

[Kris H]

The Pope's butler was arrested, apparently for leaking documents showing cronyism/corruption to the media. Is there more to this story? It seems odd that he would take such a risk over the kind of cronyism that most everyone already assumes is true.

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/25/11879150-vatican-co...

[Arto]

Hello Nancy an Zetas.

Sweden won the Eurovision Song Contest. The winner Loreen made her way to headlines by commenting the Azerbaijan's human right situation.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/05/25/uk-azerbaijan-eurovision-i...
http://www.thelocal.se/41022/20120524/

The winning song was ok, but were there also a message to elite by voters saying "we do not tolerate your elite actions anymore". Your time is up! We want to support anyone who stands up and speaks for those who's voice is supressed. Or was this just another meaningless win..

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted.

Kris H said:

The Pope's butler was arrested, apparently for leaking documents showing cronyism/corruption to the media. Is there more to this story? It seems odd that he would take such a risk over the kind of cronyism that most everyone already assumes is true.

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/25/11879150-vatican-co...

[Nancy Lieder]

Its a trend, but no need to get input from the Zetas on that.

Arto said:

Hello Nancy an Zetas.

Sweden won the Eurovision Song Contest. The winner Loreen made her way to headlines by commenting the Azerbaijan's human right situation.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/05/25/uk-azerbaijan-eurovision-i...
http://www.thelocal.se/41022/20120524/

The winning song was ok, but were there also a message to elite by voters saying "we do not tolerate your elite actions anymore". Your time is up! We want to support anyone who stands up and speaks for those who's voice is supressed. Or was this just another meaningless win..

[Planet Twelve]

Recently a video surfaced on the internet, purportedly captured through the window of an aircraft and being touted as a PX-related capture:

Nancy, I was loathe to post this here as there appears to be a connection with a banned disinfo spreader,  but this is going viral and, on reflection, I decided it would be better to get the Zeta input on this if possible, cut through the bunk. Unfortunately no information is included which might identify azimuth, time of day etc, when this capture was made.

Interesting also that comparisons are being made to a 2008 Avebury Manor crop circle, addressed at the time by the Z's http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta463.htm.

Would the Zetas please speak to this?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Planet Twelve said:

Recently a video surfaced on the internet, purportedly captured through the window of an aircraft and being touted as a PX-related capture: