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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

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Via email, a question on the Vatican's official line on ET life.

This booklet, reflecting official Vatican theology, was published in 2005 but then quickly withdrawn. It reappeared in 2014, in step with Pope Francis coming out with his statements on ET life, joking about baptizing Green Men and the like. If this type of disclosure continues, will it make a different in the Element of Doubt rule? At present, if the Element of Doubt rule requires that a dirty nuke go off so that ET interference not be obvious, this would be allowed. But could this type of disclosure make it easier for benign alien to openly interfere?
[and from another]
Intelligent Life in the Universe: Catholic belief and the search for extraterrestrial life
Br. Guy Consolmagno, SJ
http://www.vofoundation.org/books-and-media
Originally published by the Catholic Truth Society in London, and long out of print, this pamphlet outlines what we know about the search for intelligent life, both how we search and why we search, and what it can mean for Catholics and our understanding of our faith.
[and from another]
Pope Francis “We Are Not Alone in the Universe”
April 14, 2014
http://catholicendtimetruths.com/pope-francis-we-are-not-alone/14/0...
Pope Francis with great ease and amazement among the faithful present reveals: “Dear brothers, I wanted to tell all of you that we are not alone in the universe. Science has already made so much progress and will most likely soon will know our new brothers and sisters with whom we will exchange a sign of peace. On that day there will be wonder and remember that God is one and watching over us all.”



SOZT
Clearly Pope Francis
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue397.htm
wants his flock to be comfortable with the idea of extra-terrestrial intelligent life, that such creatures have souls and should not be cause for alarm. The prior Pope Benedict was of the opposite opinion, and buried such discussion in committee within the Vatican. Thus it should be no surprise that a Vatican booklet published in 2005 on the matter would be withdrawn quickly by Benedict but republished in 2014 under Francis. Public opinion polls showed that the populace was not waiting to be led to these conclusions by the church. Instead, the church was being left behind.

World leaders have been pressing for disclosure for over a decade, in part because UFO sightings, glimpses and photos of alien bodies, and evidence of past and present life on Mars were pushing the discourse. But in part because leaders like Putin (who has his own alien advisor)
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/14de2013.htm
and Obama (who is a Star Child) know that the populace of the world will be so much better off with open admission on the alien presence. Assistance from the alien presence would no longer need to be modulated by the Element of Doubt,
http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a12.htm
potentially, thus allowing aliens to openly assist mankind if the Rule of Non-Interference allowed.

The Element of Doubt rule is in place primarily to prevent mass slaughter of contactees during the Awakening period. The establishment – the powerful and wealthy and religious leaders – wanted mankind to continue to fear them,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/26ma2012.htm
to respect the power they had over their lives and their afterlives, and feared that awareness of the alien presence would diminish that. Therefore, the public was encouraged to either think that aliens did NOT exist or to fear contact with them. This conundrum meant that obvious assistance from aliens had to be denied or camouflaged.

This situation is gradually changing, as the number of contactees worldwide has surpassed the 50% point, with over half the population giving the Call and receiving contact. This increasing awareness and lack of anxiety is allowing the Element of Doubt rule to ease back, so that the rules
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue432.htm
of how aliens can interact with mankind is covered by the Rule of Non-interference
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta120.htm
with mankind’s right to make and express his orientation decision and other pertinent edicts the Council of Worlds may issue. For instance, the 7 of 10 pace was slowed to allow Obama time to effect the announcement re Nibiru, and the Council of Worlds went to war with the cover-up crowd.

How would a relaxed Element of Doubt rule help the world avoid nuclear accidents? At the start of the ZetaTalk saga, in 1995, we stated that preventing nuclear accidents
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p23.htm
was firmly in the hands of humans giving the Call. This was not entirely true as the Council of Worlds had already negated most nukes
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta569.htm
in the hands of the world’s superpowers, but the Element of Doubt rule could and would still force a dirty bomb explosion. But Fukushima
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/19mr2011.htm
in 2011 was modulated, and the future could bring further assists if the strength of the Collective Call
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta589.htm
were such that the elite are negated. This is one reason the elite often continue to resist disclosure.
EOZT

Prior 2010 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta569.htm
In the past we have stated that this was in the hands of man, and all concerned should take steps to contact power station operators asking them to shut down their plants at the first sign of a pending pole shift. We have also intimated that since the Earth was to be home to ourselves and other visitors in the future, we were being allowed to take steps to prevent nuclear pollution, so that disarming nuclear weaponry was in process. Nancy can attest to this, as during her engagement with MJ12 she was present at a demonstration whereby we poured a clear liquid into a radioactive vat and neutralized it. The great powers, the US and Russia, deny this is happening to their weaponry, so that they can posture as nuclear powers. Their weapons are being neutralized whether they want this or not. Recently, when asked about power plant operations, we have intimated that by giving the Call, en mass, many voices concerned about the effects of nuclear pollution on innocents, Chernobyl redux, that the Council of Worlds granted ourselves and others the right to step in and assist. Such is the power of the Call, out of love for others by those in the Service-to-Other. This does not mean that mankind should relax. This means that the pressure should not be abated.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/26ma2012.htm
Man did not live in fear of UFOs or encounters, but rather had curiosity. What created fear in the public was the campaign mustered by MJ12, where scare stories were featured in the media, in TV series, and in movies developed for the establishment by a compliant Hollywood. The movie Signs by Mel Gibson, Falling Skies, Independence Day, War of the Worlds – all tell the public that aliens will arrive and try to poison them, enslave them, or eliminate them.  None of this is true, and the establishment knows this, yet keeps up the disinformation. The Element of Doubt is in place primarily to prevent panic in the establishment, who would harm the public in their desperate attempts to cling to their status.

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a12.htm
The rule is, and will be for the near future, we keep the issue constantly before the populace, with a steadily increasing level of discussion, but always, always, with an element of doubt. This element of doubt is necessary during the Awakening so your populace does not become unduly alarmed. What we seek to avoid is the nervous breakdown, the fear in friends and co-workers raising to such a level that they take violent steps against the reporter, or the intensity of fear in the observer that would make them susceptible, incline them, toward giving The Call to the Service-to-Self. For this reason visitations are currently recorded only in the subconscious. The is what the Awakening desires, a gradual comfort level increase, without any contactees being burned at the stake by hysterical religious leaders whose turf has been threatened.

Prior 1995 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p23.htm
The Earth is in 3rd Density, and by the Rules of Non-Interference we are required to watch and not interfere. Unless humans take steps to disarm their nuclear weapons and properly shut down their power stations, radiation poisoning will undoubtedly take place. Our assistance prior to the cataclysms is therefore dependent on humans giving The Call.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/19mr2011.htm
As we have explained, we are not allowed to warn of specific pending earthquakes or tidal waves, by the rule of non-interference. We have only been allowed to explain the sequence of events, which we have done for the 7 of 10 and the last weeks, in exacting detail. We knew this earthquake was pending for the North Island of Japan, but could say nothing. We also knew that the nuclear power plants would be put at risk, and their safeguards would fail. Just what steps benign aliens were allowed to take to minimize any meltdown at these plants we are not allowed to detail, but suffice it to say that the meltdowns would have been violent and extreme, and would have occurred in more plants than experienced them, had intervention not occurred. It would have been beyond a Chernobyl, affecting not only the islands of Japan but also anywhere the winds would drift, including Hawaii and the West Coast of the US and beyond.

Could the Zetas say something about these 2 crop circles. That appeared in the Tuscany region of  Italy?

http://www.cropcirclecenter.com/ccdata/2015/06/02/IT20150602_A.html

http://www.cropcirclecenter.com/ccdata/2015/06/03/IT20150603_A.html

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Charty said:

Can the zetas comment on what was discussed behind closed doors at G7 summit today and what is on the agenda for the Bilberberg meeting?

[and from another]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1190316/G7-leaders-outr...
Barring Russian President Vladimir Putin for a third time, the G7 leaders invited others beyond the club of rich nations, including Iraq's premier and Nigeria's president, both battling Islamist violence.
[and from another]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3115748/Guestlist-secretive...
Chancellor George Osborne is the most senior politician from the UK due to attend the Bilderberg Conference in Austria this week
[and from another]
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/08/bilderberg-summit-forg...
The influential Bilderberg policy conference, which this year is being held in Austria, just 16 miles south of the G7 summit. No fewer than three serving European prime ministers will be attending, from the Netherlands, Finland and Belgium. They will be discussing “European strategy” with the head of NATO. Europe’s hottest financial potato, Greece, is on the conference agenda. The scandal-hit HSBC and everyone’s favourite vampire squid, Goldman Sachs, are both extremely well represented at this year’s conference. From the worlds of industry and manufacturing are some eye-wateringly big names. Finally, it’s worth noting the growing presence of Google at Bilderberg.

SOZT
What has changed since Bilderberg 2014? In 2014 the elite were agonizing over their inability to stop the announcement admitting Nibiru, and now the Council’s war on the media is succeeding. Now the obvious visibility of Nibiru, seen increasingly by the common man, will prevent them from claiming this is a lie. Their plans to counter the announcement with disinformation seem to be melting away. Still confident that they have control of assets that can be used to leverage their safety and continued high perch, they are focused on bolstering their defenses and making alliances. Such discussions include who to cut lose and abandon, and as this group is solidly Service-to-Self in the main, back stabbing and hypocrisy are in abundance.  

It is clear that the banking system is increasingly shaky, and with Russia and their partners in BRICS rivaling the west’s IMF their ability to strangle the world via debt is also disappearing. Retracting into smaller groups, less territory, and retrenching with different and hopefully more solid partners is the trend. Frank discussions during the day migrate to heavy drinking at night - on whether one should continue with bankrupt entities or cut them lose, on whether one should begin to barter food for labor and bypass the monetary system or simply tighten the controls in the bank. And with increased electromagnetic pulse affecting planes and trains and the ferocity of storms increasing, will such steps be enough?

One can hardly separate the G7 from the Bilderberg meetings, as they are going on simultaneously and only 16 miles apart. It is not only the Middle East that is exploding. These are Sunni and Shia battles, which all can see will not abate as the religious aspects dominate. The G7 see their homelands exploding also - with rioting and immigration threats.  Just as the elite at the Bilderberg meeting are retrenching, the countries at the G7 are shrinking their virtual borders, more concerned about protecting their core homeland than control of regions at a distance. Energy independence is mentioned often, home grown food and control of rioting and secure borders – these are the focus.
EOZT

Prior 2014 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ma2014.htm
The items under discussion at Bilderberg 2014 will not be much different from prior years.  We mentioned in 2010 a white knuckle anxiety about a break in the cover-up over the pending passage of Planet X, and now that it is obvious that an announcement admitting this cannot be delayed or prevented, the inability of the elite to assassinate Obama or counteract the will of the Council of Worlds will be a dominant discussion item. ZetaTalk is well known among the elite, and the warnings to the Russians who have had their spy satellites shot down for the past three years is obvious. What other steps might the Council take, and how can this be countered?

Where previous plans to enslave the world by debt and control via World Bank loans have not changed, the slipping grip of the elite is palpable. Countries simply go bankrupt, ignoring their debt, as do individuals. Foreclosed homes or other abandoned assets do not equate to control of the populace. The Internet cannot be controlled, and the larger horror of fully half the populace now contactees, chatting with aliens, presents a scenario never expected. Could the world of the future NOT be under their control? How much leverage will the assets they control have, in truth?  

The elite, as most of mankind, assume the world they know will not change. Social services will continue despite the breakdown of society. Food distribution will continue despite crop failure and heaving roads. Travel will be possible despite electro-magnetic pulse and microburst winds bringing down airplanes. And communications will persist despite dead satellites and phone towers. How will the elite control migration unless they have these intimidation and spying tools and can bribe their guards and their slaves with food? The issue of when and how to commit suicide has crept into private discussions. Retreat into controlled enclaves, and if and when the tide turns, end it all.

Accepted via email:

Is the mysterious light on the I74 Bridge a sign for our area, the Mississippi River bridge crossing from Illinois into Iowa, like the lights over San Diego? This is a link to the local TV station that aired the mysterious light, as it appeared on the bridge web-cam early in the morning today June 8th. Davenport, Iowa is in the background. There appeared an unexplained light on the surface of the bridge this morning, and the light moved, but there was no current traffic to reflect off of, so it is mysterious. My first thoughts upon seeing the light, with no other cars or activity around, was a sign to warn us, who live here along the Mississippi River. I have three choices to cross the river and I will no longer be using this bridge(LOL), but rather the Government bride at Rock Island Arsenal Island, with the locks and dam, as in my simple mind it appears to be the more solid structure. Zeta Talk has great info about the Mississippi River but it is mostly above and below this Quad Cities area, covering St. Louis to the Gulf and Wisconsin to Minnestoa. Here the Mississippi river runs east and west, a few hours below Wisconsin.
[and from another]
http://wqad.com/2015/06/08/strange-light-seen-on-i-74-bridge-timela...
SOZT
Evidence of the Planet X complex does not show up merely in the sky, as the Moon Swirls are extremely bright, rivaling the Sun in brightness, though hardly as large and thus overall lost in the glare of the Sun. But when the Sun is still rising at dawn, its heat and light are not as intense. The vast tail of Planet X, aka Nibiru, wafts to the left and then up and over the Sun, when this is viewed from the Northern Hemisphere. Thus the Moon Swirls are more overhead, over the bridge, and caused a reflection. These lights were noted on video, after the fact, so no one could go outside and verify that a lit area of the sky was overhead until the tail has wafted on its way.
EOZT

Accepted

Gerard Zwaan said:

Could the Zetas say something about these 2 crop circles. That appeared in the Tuscany region of  Italy?

http://www.cropcirclecenter.com/ccdata/2015/06/02/IT20150602_A.html
http://www.cropcirclecenter.com/ccdata/2015/06/02/IT20150602_A.html
[and from another]
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2015/Brandenburg/Brandenburg2015...
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2015/Pontecurone/Pontecurone2015...



SOZT
What is notable in the circle designs in Europe (Italy and Germany) during the first week of June, 2015 is that they have a single focus – a circle most often with sun-like radiation arms emitting from the center. Crop circle designs most often have complexity, indicating Nibiru’s passage through the solar system or the interaction between various planets like Earth, Venus, and the Dark Twin. They tell a story. But these single focus designs are making a statement. The Earth is no longer on the periphery of the drama, but center stage, squeezed between the two sister planets – Venus and the Dark Twin – with Nibiru coming at the Earth full bore.
EOZT

Circles. 6, than 5 (9) circles, than 8, and 12... Earth is at center? 

Nancy's Comment: I too noted that one design as 13 flares, another has 12, another has 8, but apparently the point is that WHATEVER the activity, it is centering on one spot, it is centered on one planet - Earth.

I'm do having really sorry. This plate is going to be depicting US central point. Tic-tac-toe are depicted\

Konstantin said:

Circles. 6, than 5 (9) circles, than 8, and 12... Earth is at center? 

Nancy's Comment: I too noted that one design as 13 flares, another has 12, another has 8, but apparently the point is that WHATEVER the activity, it is centering on one spot, it is centered on one planet - Earth.

How could we (you) say peoples to get into safe locations???

Nancy's Comment: It is not the Last Weeks yet, nor have the 7 of 10 finished. In fact, the S American roll is still in process, Africa roll is only just started. New Madrid has not begun its series of quakes (though the Zetas have said it will START by the end of 2015), and no tsunami however slight has struck Europe. So no panic, there is time.

As is our usual practice we are closing this 6/13 Q&A chat so answers can be prepared for the web. Please post your new questions on the chat for 6/20. Thank you.

http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/zetatalk-chat-for-june-20-2015

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