ZetaTalk Chat for July 7, 2012

[Nancy Lieder]

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3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Chris]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/apr/29/london-rooftops-missile...

London rooftops to carry missiles during Olympic Games

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/apr/30/snipers-patrol-skies-lo...

London 2012 - Snipers to patrol skies during Olympic Games

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/london-olympics-security-fbi-agents-s...

London 2012 - U.S. and U.K. security and terrorism officials told ABC News that thousands of police officers, soldiers, intelligence officers, firefighters and private guards -- a force that could at times top 40,0000 -- will be on hand at 32 sports venues to respond to everything from pickpockets to terror threats. U.K. Defense Secretary Philip Hammond told Parliament Monday that security measures might even include surface-to-air missiles.

QFZT - The security measures being taken at the 2012 Olympic games seems extreme, in the least.  Is the establishment expecting (more) mass unrest and protests at the games, with potential violent outcome?  Are these measures more of a visible deterrent,  a raising of the hackles if you will?  Flexing the biceps, showing off the toys to ward off troublemakers?   Or is it a possible "terrorist" attack in the works, false flag or otherwise?  (The way things are progressing it would even be believable if missile launching were a soon-to-be Olympic sport..)

We appreciate what you do Nancy,  thank you Zetas as well.   

[bill]

Nancy,

The media is blaming tropical storm debby but what is the real reason that caused all these sinkholes in Florida?

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/florida-sinkhole-opens-up-...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhW2jwiPSk8

http://www.zetatalk7.com/info/tinfx085.htm

[Derrick Johnson]

HI Bill

ZetaTalk about Florida being in a stretch Zone and subject to sink holes  

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/12mr2011.htm

Will the New Madrid just suddenly rip with our predicted magnitude 9 quake? Hardly. There will be a progression of quakes in the magnitude 4-5 range all along the New Madrid fault line, which runs up to the Great Lakes and thence along the seaway. The bow will become more stressed, cracking rock inland from San Diego all the way to the Mississippi, and forcing adjustments north and south of this point too, from the Aleutian Islands to the tip of Mexico. Sinkholes and crevasses will proliferate throughout the US in her stretch zones, in a swath that ranges from the New England states south to the tip of Florida and all points west. This is a large bow. Then quakes will increase to the point of being considered magnitude 6-7 along the long New Madrid fault line and its attendant splinters. The New Madrid adjustment will thus not sneak up on you, but will be well announced.

 

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue258.htm

Where most stretch zones are pulled in a single direction, such as the East Coast of the US being pulled directly east toward the Atlantic Rift, stretch zones can compete, and in such cases vibrations occur. Florida is being pulled east and also southwest due to the Caribbean Plate edge lifting at the Gulf, providing an alternate route.

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/09ap2011.htm

Seismic activity in Florida is almost nil, as it has virtually no fault lines. The rock strata is young, and loosely connected to older rock inland. An analysis of the rock strata shows that the trembling in Flagler County is at the border where younger and older rock meet, and the point where quakes in the Florida region pick up. When the N American continent is pulled into a bow, loosely connected rock strata disconnect, often in a gentle manner! This is not perceived as an earthquake, as it is akin to stretch zone movement of the Earth - essentially silent.

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta449.htm

Various adjustments have occurred in the stretch zone affecting the eastern half of the N American continent - the Minneapolis bridge collapse, a sinking piling on the Memphis bridge, and now this Illinois quake. Add to this all the sinkholes in Florida and Pennsylvania, and the derailing trains that have occurred in 2004 and 2005. Then there are the broken roads along the Gulf in Texas, and yawing crevasses opening in Mexico and Arizona in the past few years. The New Madrid is just another fault line, subject to the diagonal pull that is tearing much of the N American continent apart. All these Earth changes are related, thus.

bill said:

Nancy,

The media is blaming tropical storm debby but what is the real reason that caused all these sinkholes in Florida?

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/florida-sinkhole-opens-up-...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhW2jwiPSk8

http://www.zetatalk7.com/info/tinfx085.htm

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. In that their last big "terrorism" thing in London was a false flag operation (done by the establishment) this is peculiar.

Chris said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/apr/29/london-rooftops-missile...

London rooftops to carry missiles during Olympic Games

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/apr/30/snipers-patrol-skies-lo...

London 2012 - Snipers to patrol skies during Olympic Games

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/london-olympics-security-fbi-agents-s...

London 2012 - U.S. and U.K. security and terrorism officials told ABC News that thousands of police officers, soldiers, intelligence officers, firefighters and private guards -- a force that could at times top 40,0000 -- will be on hand at 32 sports venues to respond to everything from pickpockets to terror threats. U.K. Defense Secretary Philip Hammond told Parliament Monday that security measures might even include surface-to-air missiles.

QFZT - The security measures being taken at the 2012 Olympic games seems extreme, in the least.  Is the establishment expecting (more) mass unrest and protests at the games, with potential violent outcome?  Are these measures more of a visible deterrent,  a raising of the hackles if you will?  Flexing the biceps, showing off the toys to ward off troublemakers?   Or is it a possible "terrorist" attack in the works, false flag or otherwise?  (The way things are progressing it would even be believable if missile launching were a soon-to-be Olympic sport..)

We appreciate what you do Nancy,  thank you Zetas as well.   

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. It may also be bow stress, pulling the East Coast down, etc.

bill said:

Nancy,

The media is blaming tropical storm debby but what is the real reason that caused all these sinkholes in Florida?

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/florida-sinkhole-opens-up-...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhW2jwiPSk8

http://www.zetatalk7.com/info/tinfx085.htm

[Planet Twelve]

It has become apparent through media reports recently that yet another supposed asteroid mapping mission is in the works. To be achieved, as usual, by shooting aloft a flying spying platform, the “Sentinel”.

Replete with the usual accoutrements, cameras (infra-red of course) and who knows what else, undertaken by what is reputedly a private consortium, the B612 Foundation, and purportedly just more asteroid watching, to those of us who are studying these matters closely, and reading ZT, this smells like more  incognito Planet X hunting:

Sentinel mission to place asteroid-hunting telescope into orbit around the Sun

By Adam Williams

10:34 June 30, 2012

[In my opinion their best guess at a position for a Planet X Watch.]

California-based non-profit B612 Foundation has announced its intention to place an asteroid-hunting infrared telescope into orbit around the Sun. Named Sentinel, the ambitious endeavor is to be the world's first privately funded deep space mission and will aim to map up to 90 percent of all asteroids larger than 140 meters (459 ft) in Earth’s region of the solar system. In addition to these sizable asteroids, Sentinel will further provide data on a number of smaller asteroids, down to a size of approximately 30 meters (98 ft) in diameter.

Originally established in 2002 following a one-day workshop focused on asteroid deflection, the B612 Foundation boasts a wealth of experience and expertise in its ranks, with several former NASA astronauts and senior team members involved. Since its inception, the B612 Foundation has maintained a core mission of both moving toward the exploration of the solar system, while also raising awareness of the potential for a catastrophic asteroid impact, as the project's website highlights:

"An asteroid that is 140 meters across (i.e. one that would fit comfortably inside a high school sports stadium) packs an impact energy of about 100 Megatons of TNT, which is about five times larger than all the bombs used in WWII."

 More here: http://www.gizmag.com/sentinel-asteroid-hunting-infrared-telescope/...

 

 

Featuring the usual scare-mongering asteroid kerfuffle, and undertaken by a coterie of the usual suspects, i.e. old NASA cronies, astronauts, would-be refugees from the Bully et al, the B612 Foundation , who “feel a certain urgency to get on with it” (they even have a twelve in the name), this is again revealing of the apparent sudden onset of deep pockets and faux-concern for their fellow humans afflicting the so-called Elite of late. More like PX Panic.

All of a sudden it is all about asteroids

 

Pretty much concurrent to the trumpeting of the above-mentioned “Sentinel” mission, another asteroid-themed false-facade, rhetoric-filled piece was presented through the acquiescent mainstream press, talk of blasting asteroids with lasers. Although they are often projecting far-off dates for these endeavors, we know from past experience and ZT that, with NASA and by association anything or anyone to which they hang their hat, it is Never A Straight Answer.

Have we not done enough fussing over asteroids, ad nauseum? Those brave spacefarers NASA have covered this repeatedly. NEOWISE, NEAT, plus countless other alphabet euphemisms. What do they take us for??

 

Asteroid deflection schemes go green with solar-powered laser spacecraft

By Jan Belezina

14:17 June 18, 2012

“Scientists are proposing that spacecraft could use solar-powered lasers to deflect an Earth-bound asteroid”

More: http://www.gizmag.com/solar-powered-laser-spacecraft/22991/

 

I cannot help but feel there is something mysterious about this “B612 Foundation”. While researching, I came across this strange link; http://b612.net/. Not sure what to make of it, but an interesting image in my opinion.

Nancy, of course we know this whole asteroid hoo-hah is nothing new. From Bush et al trying to shoot down PX, to NASA’s periodic harping on the issue, the Z’s have been there many times. The thing is, it appears to be getting cranked up, there is something going on.  

Would the Zetas please enlighten Truthseekers on this? Could we please have some ZetaTalk re the above, to reveal the true nature of these nefarious Establishment shenanigans?

[Lana]

Not to reveal my safe location (at least I think it is safe), let's say it is somewhere in Balkans, I have noticed hydrogen sulfide odor in the water-well, root cellar and on the open field. Also one water-well that has been giving drinking water to the local population for centuries has dried up. Can the Zetas answer what could be the reason for this sulfur smell, what risks it poses and could it be a precusor for some greater things that could happen.

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. Yes, another deep pockets and NON governmental effort. Been a real trend lately.

Planet Twelve said:

It has become apparent through media reports recently that yet another supposed asteroid mapping mission is in the works. To be achieved, as usual, by shooting aloft a flying spying platform, the “Sentinel”.

Replete with the usual accoutrements, cameras (infra-red of course) and who knows what else, undertaken by what is reputedly a private consortium, the B612 Foundation, and purportedly just more asteroid watching, to those of us who are studying these matters closely, and reading ZT, this smells like more  incognito Planet X hunting:

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Lana said:

Not to reveal my safe location (at least I think it is safe), let's say it is somewhere in Balkans, I have noticed hydrogen sulfide odor in the water-well, root cellar and on the open field. Also one water-well that has been giving drinking water to the local population for centuries has dried up. Can the Zetas answer what could be the reason for this sulfur smell, what risks it poses and could it be a precusor for some greater things that could happen.

[astrogal50]

The U.S. mainstream media has labeled a widespread, sudden, and unprecedented storm a "derecho," although most Americans had probably never heard that term before this week.  Some meteorologists are calling this Mid-West to East Coast storm a "land hurricane," although hurricanes do not arrive without warning.

Is the public being fed an Establishment Lie about this storm being a "derecho"?  Is this just another example of the wobble getting worse, while the Establishment fails to inform the common man about the true cause of such extreme and strange weather?

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... The strong line of storms approached the D.C. metro area around 10:30 PM.  Many people recount the event, as all of the sudden hearing a loud gust of wind and in many cases, the highest wind gusts occurred before the actual line of heavy rain pushed through.  What was so impressive about Friday night's storms was that they occurred after an afternoon of record breaking heat.  D.C. made it to 104° - breaking the previous record of 101° set back in 1934.  Even after the sunset, temperatures were in the low 90s when the storms plowed through, so there was definitely enough heat energy to support the strong storms, even after they crossed the mountains.  Dewpoint temperatures were also near 70°, so there was a lot of moisture in the atmosphere, as well....

The line of storms produced wind gusts to 70 mph at both Reagan National and Washington Dulles.  The storms lasted about an hour, but left millions without power and unfortunately a few fatalities.  Take a look at the NWS Storm Reports from Fridays event.  This MidAtlantic view totals 463 reports of wind damage!  There was one confirmed tornado in Newcomerstown, Ohio and even some reports of hail. 

Looking back at weather records, D.C. hasn't experienced a significant Derecho event before the Friday occurrence.... 

The 2012 D.C. Derecho will definitely make the record books.  It was unlike something many of us have seen, but will remain infamous in our memories.  http://www.wjla.com/blogs/weather/2012/06/d-c-derecho-midwest-to-ea...

Power Outages from Storms Across Mid-Atlantic Could Last for Days

WASHINGTON — Utility crews untangled downed power lines and tree limbs Sunday, working to get the electricity turned back on for millions of people facing a second day of 100-degree temperatures without modern conveniences like air conditioning and refrigeration.

... Utilities were slowly making progress, but more than 3 million people still had no electricity and could only watch their thermostats climb. It could be several days before all the power outages are restored.

Strong winds from the storms late Friday toppled massive trees onto cars and blocked roads, and officials asked residents not to drive until they could clear debris from the streets. When a hurricane is lumbering their way, state officials have time to get extra personnel in place so they can immediately start on cleanup. That wasn't the case with this storm, known as a derecho – a straight-line wind storm that sweeps over a large area at high speed.

"Unlike a polite hurricane that gives you three days of warning, this storm gave us all the impact of a hurricane without any of the warning of a hurricane," Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley said....

The bulk of the storm damage was in West Virginia, Washington and the capital's Virginia and Maryland suburbs. At least six of the dead were killed in Virginia, including a 90-year-old woman asleep in her bed when a tree slammed into her home. Two young cousins in New Jersey were killed when a tree fell on their tent while camping. Two were killed in Maryland, one in Ohio, one in Kentucky and one in Washington....

The power outages were especially dangerous because they left the region without air conditioning in an oppressive heat wave. Temperatures soared to highs in the mid-90s Saturday in Baltimore and Washington, a day after readings of up to 104 degrees were reported in the region.

Yet another day of temperatures reaching 100 degrees was forecast for much of the region Sunday. Many started to worry what food they had would spoil and their Monday morning commute....

Three Baltimore City fire companies set to permanently close this week were staying open several more days to help cope....

In West Virginia, 232 Amtrak passengers were stranded Friday night on a train blocked on both sides of the tracks by toppled trees....

Netflix, Instagram and Pinterest resorted to using Twitter and Facebook to update subscribers after violent storms across the eastern U.S. caused server outages for hours. Netflix and Pinterest restored service by Saturday afternoon.

Instagram used its Facebook fan page to communicate with users of its photo-sharing service. It posted a message on Saturday morning that blamed the electrical storm for the outage that sent its engineers scrambling to restore service.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/01/power-outages-storms-mid-a...

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. We had a rapidly moving storm in northern Wisconsin/Minnesota this morning, really fast moving. I think that is what is different. Wobble related and temp differences (also caused by the wobble), I suspect.

astrogal50 said:

The U.S. mainstream media has labeled a widespread, sudden, and unprecedented storm a "derecho," although most Americans had probably never heard that term before this week.  Some meteorologists are calling this Mid-West to East Coast storm a "land hurricane," although hurricanes do not arrive without warning.

Is the public being fed an Establishment Lie about this storm being a "derecho"?  Is this just another example of the wobble getting worse, while the Establishment fails to inform the common man about the true cause of such extreme and strange weather?

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[Cate Webster]

Hi Nancy

Thank you for all you do. What is the real purpose of this island? http://gizmodo.com/5923158/video-from-space-shows-us-army-creating-...

Thanks,

Cate