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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

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Accepted via email:

What do zetas say about it??
[and from another]

http://www.inquisitr.com/1691936/ufo-laser-space-station-nasa/
The red laser incident marks the third time since mid October that the NASA video feed has captured what UFO watchers believe to be an alien craft in close proximity to the International Space Station. But while in the previous two sightings the supposed UFO appeared to be merely observing the space station in operation, this time, whatever the entity is — or is not — seems to be taking aggressive action toward our planet. But according to NASA, there’s a very Earthly explanation for the leaser beam in space. The laser beam was actually a test firing of the new Optical Payload for Laser Communcation, or OPALS, system run in part by NASA from its Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. The purpose of OPALS is to create a new, ultra-high speed communications link between Earth and spacecraft such as the space station.
[and from another]
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-421
Faster downlinks from space could mean people receive higher-definition video from both satellites orbiting our planet and spacecraft farther into space, including NASA's Mars rovers. Laser communication technology also has the potential to provide faster Internet connections in remote areas on Earth. OPALS launched to the space station aboard a SpaceX Dragon cargo capsule in April. The payload was able to establish an optical communications link when its laser locked onto a ground beacon emitted by the Optical Communications Telescope Laboratory's ground station at JPL's Table Mountain Observatory in Wrightwood, California.
[and from another]
http://phaeton.jpl.nasa.gov/external/projects/optical.cfm
OPALS successfully demonstrated optical communication by transferring videos and files from the nadir-pointed payload on the International Space Station (ISS) to our primary ground receiver at JPL's Optical Communications Telescope Laboratory (OCTL) in Wrightwood, California, and at times, other international ground stations.




SOZT
The glowing red orb with laser light pointed toward Earth was not from the OPALS system, as can be quickly ascertained by its location. OPALS is attached to the ISS, on the body of the ISS per NASA’s own documentation on the system. The red orb captured on December 5, 2014 is independent of the ISS, nor is any other human body such as a satellite in view just prior to the red orb’s appearance. NASA has allowed other images of UFO visits to appear on its website recently, an attempt to expedite disclosure
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/25oc2014.htm
on the alien presence. On October 7, 2014
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/ufo-riddle-mystery-craft-ap...
an elongated cigar shaped UFO suddenly appeared, then disappeared.

What is the purpose of a red glow and red ray from a UFO? Does this have something to do with the OPALS system, which uses a red laser ray for rapid communication of data? This display has more than one motive. It is first a means of getting into the news, as once the images had been released they could not be withdrawn, and even casual examination will reveal what we had mentioned – OPALS is attached to the ISS, where this red orb is not. Yet for those needing the Element of Doubt, it is provided as those nervous about the alien presence can just accept NASA’s bluster.

A second motive is to show off alien technology. The Council of Worlds has authorized destroying those launches that assist or promote the elite’s attempts to escape the Earth during the forthcoming Pole Shift. Since the exact reason for an aborted launch, exploding dramatically in front of the cameras, cannot be pinned down and can be argued, there are those among the elite who argue that better expertise or different captains will fix the problem. Press on, is their attitude, and meanwhile keep the cover-up over the presence of Nibiru and the pending passage a secret. This glowing red UFO and its pointed red laser is the Council’s way of saying “we have lasers too, but they’re not for communications”.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/25oc2014.htm
This is neither a lens flare nor a docking supply ship. The mystery is less what it is than why NASA would allow the video to be released to the public. We have stated that disclosure would not be forthcoming from the US government, but the cover-up over the alien presence will be gradually dropped. They plan to have Nancy explain how aliens interact with the contactees, and how they interacted with MJ12 in the past. The announcement admitting Nibiru nearby will put Nancy in the spotlight, to explain how she knew so exactingly where and when Nibiru would arrive in 2003. In preparation for this time, NASA has been allowing proof of alien life via their Mars rover, and lately, proof from ISS images.

Accepted via email:

It makes no sense to me that the Council of Worlds would go to war and force the hand of the elite, instead of just helping get the announcement made.  Highjacking all broadcast signals would be simple.
So, my question is: why war?

SOZT
Humans, living on a 3rd density world, a schoolhouse for young souls where the spiritual orientations mix and can brutalize or care for each other without hindrance, find the concept of how higher density entities supervise this schoolhouse confusing. Human societies have parents that interfere, police and courts that interfere, and when the strong want a course of action it is forced to happen. But a schoolhouse in 3rd density has the Rule of Non-Interference
http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r02.htm
as rule one, what some call the Prime Directive.

We have explained that in the past humans could have conscious contact with aliens. But just prior to the time of Roswell a vote by Earthlings
http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r35.htm
determined the Earth to be a home for Service-to-Other souls in the future, and thus no direct activity by the visitors that would tip the globe in the other direction would be allowed. UFO displays are done only by visitors in the Service-to-Other. The Chupacabras
http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t41.htm
were allowed as they were only allowed to terrify, not attack, humans.  All visitations were to be recorded only in the subconscious
http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r28.htm
of contactees, to lessen the likelihood that they would be attacked during mankind’s rapid Awakening period by other humans frightened by the concept of intelligent life from outer space.

These edicts are encompassed in the Element of Doubt rule,
http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a12.htm
whereby any discernable action by the visitors must be able to be denied by those who are too frightened. UFO displays are obvious for those embracing the alien presence, but for the frightened they are weather balloons. That said, why would the Council of Worlds not simply MAKE the announcement that Nibiru has arrived and is due for a passage? A booming voice from the skies, a takeover of all TV screens or some such action.

To abide by the rule of Non-Interference, mankind must be taking the actions. What the Council is doing is working THROUGH the hands of man. Men take the actions, though they can be provided with information or assistance via manipulation of THINGS. We have explained that the rules allow things but not people
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta120.htm
to be manipulated. Information such as internal codes for Sony computers is provided. Electronic communications such as stock market buy/sell orders are lost or delayed. This is not interfering with mankind’s self-determination, but will eventually force the elite to acquiesce to allow Obama to make his announcement re Nibiru.
EOZT

Dear Nancy and Zeta's,

The webcam at Neumayer Station III was apparently "fixed" today. On a clear day it was routinely showing Nibiru/Planet X at sunrise and the Dark Twin shortly after.

http://www.awi.de/en/infrastructure/stations/neumayer_station/webcam/

Can the Zeta's give comment on why they moved the field of view for the camera down so it doesn't cover the sky now?

Thank You!

Dragon, Here's an overlap of the sun's path with its forecasted path.

This is the sun's real path from 2:50 am GMT to 6:10 am on 19 Dec. (The sun is moving to the left, from the bottom right to the top left).

And this is the forecasted path:

Now if you overlap them, you see the discrepancy of the wobble is virtually undetectable.

When the sun first enters the frame, it is over Australia & then when it exits it is over the Indian Ocean. I'm beginning to wonder if the very angle of Neumayer station they chose to broadcast in the first place, was carefully chosen. (Or is this maybe COW bending light, to avoid panic? idk..).

@casey a - That interesting but I wasn't trying to look for the wobble with the images. The images from that same cam back from 2012 are just slightly off position wise from before the move today. That cam has been moved slightly before but covered nearly the same amount of sky vs land. Now with the adjustment they did to it today the images are nearly all land and just enough sky but at the same time to also cut out the Sun. If you match up the new position and previous few days when you can see the Sun in the image you'll see that part of the sky is no longer in view of the camera. It's more than just a random minor adjustment. It was a precise adjustment with reason.

When interpreting the first of two Ark Lane crop circles laid in Essex, England in late August 2014, the Zetas explained:

"Interference with the Earth’s magnetosphere will no longer be influenced by the magnetic trimesters, occurring three times a year. The interference will now be continuous, unrelenting, the magnetosphere of Planet X literally abutting the Earth’s field, their magnetospheres clashing and touching, as many recent crop circles have shown."

Since then, ACE satellite data and BATSRUS modeling has portrayed a mostly calm magnetosphere in comparison to the increasingly tumultuous magnetic influences Planet X has asserted upon Earth for the past several years. Only within the last few days has Earth's magnetosphere again exhibited distortions consistent with the nearby presence of Planet X.

Can the Zetas explain why Earth's magnetosphere calmed in response to continuous contact with the magnetosphere of Planet X?

Also, is the magnetospheric turmoil of the past few days somehow related to the influence of the December magnetic trimester upon Planet X?

Thank you.

The low price of oil product of the production increase by Saudi Arabia, new policy
which they have stated they will not step back from, has several different
impacts. First, it favors the oil non producing countries, which have to import
and pay the price for it, Europe and China included. Secondly it is detrimental
to other oil producing countries, which have less reserves and/or higher
production costs. They´ll get less money for the oil they export. Among them,
of course, Venezuela, Russia and Iran. Russia and Iran are supporters of the
Assad´s regime in Syria, which both the US and Saudi Arabia want to see gone. It
is also detrimental to the recently developing shale oil producers in the US,
just because their cost of production is higher. The same applies to the UK oil
producers in the North Sea (Scotland), which will no more seek its independence
from the UK because Scotlande is now more dependent on the Union to finance
itself. So, it helps the UK and the English royalty, in a certain sense. Other
result of this move, is that it propels the US Dollar upwards, while making the
Russian Ruble value go dramatically down. Even though an important portion of
Russia´s exports is still paid in US Dollars, with contracts signed, so that
Russia is still making money, the low value of the Ruble will generate problems
on the internal demand in Russia. And yes, Saudi Arabia will make much less
money by selling its crude at a lower price, but they just don´t care about it (yet).
They can afford it. Finally, in a certain extent it encourages the use of oil
instead of gas, just because oil is now cheaper, even though gas will probably
never be totally replaced by oil since gas is a much ¨greener¨ fuel than oil. In
summary, the ¨oil weapon¨ has been used to attack Russia, Iran and Venezuela,
while coming in support of the US policies and the US Dollar. Many questions
may arise from this development: Will this commercial war extend until the hour
of the PS? How deep down will the low cost of oil take the Russian economy? Is
Saudi Arabia going to be punished by this policy anyhow? In what extent is
Saudi Arabia in the know about the PS? If they are, how does this cheap oil
policy relate to their plans for the pending passage? Are they just trying to
sell as much oil as they can, before the passage? Is the Saudi elite just going
to grab the money and flee to Australia, leaving their people back on their own
in the Saudi country, future next door neighbor of the new South Pole (a future
Siberia?) How is it related to the pending Announcement? For sure all of these
little wars, political and power moves, attacks on the economies, terrorism,
etc., do not precisely help in any way to prepare for the PS, but are rather
distractions of valuable time, energy and resources. Would the Zetas like to
comment?

I don´t know if this issue would be of interest to many, but here it goes. The Seven Hermetic Principles are said to represent the Key of Wisdom, applicable to all times, and to any part, or to any level, of the Universe. http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/kyb/kyb04.htm Having studied or read a lot of scientific and pseudo scientific material for many years, and having read the Zeta´s enlightening comments on many matters, I would think that statement should not be that far from truth. These principles are not of any religious nature, nor are dogmatic, or in any way disconnected from real life, but they rather seem to be quite scientific and product of the direct experience of highly evolved souls. Of course, just as with everything else: the difficulty for us human lies not in what is thereby stated, or on what we believe we understand. The difficulty lies on what we are really able to grasp and make use of, with our limited half ape brain. Understanding these principles, in depth, may take much, much more than we are capable to deliver now. Would the Zetas be interested in commenting on these Hermetic Principles? Was Hermes/Toth, the supposed final author, sometimes called ¨The Favorite Of The Gods¨, a human or an Annunaki?

Declined as the we are not being given the truth, as has been documented in the past.

I have received via email evidence within this past month that the magnetosphere reporting has been DIALED DOWN so it is less sensitive and gives the impression that thing are not uptick. Likewise with USGS which was down a month or so ago and came back way less sensitive, so the mag of a quake is almost 2 points below real. They are lying to us. Found the email which I tried to forward to you (maybe it got lost) where the DIAL DOWN on magnetics was reported to me.

..................

Ms. Lieder,

I wanted to give you another example of how the magnetosphereis being censored (Howard might be interested in this). They are reducing the “voltage,” if you will, of this model of the Earth’s bow shock, as evidenced by the two diagrams below, which have overlapping time periods. They’ve been doing this for some time now, but it’s become even more dramatic in the past couple of weeks.

..................

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/15no2014.htm
Indeed, as we have recently confirmed, the USGS continues to downgrade magnitude to the point where at present quakes can be listed at almost two points below their actual magnitude.


Howard said:

When interpreting the first of two Ark Lane crop circles laid in Essex, England in late August 2014, the Zetas explained:

Declined as the answer is obvious. Yes, the rising Sun is now showing evidence of PX, so they simply turned the cam to eliminate the evidence. They did this to the Mawson cam in 2012, documented here: http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue306.htm

The Casey a overlap showing sunrise, cam facing East, Sun moving lower right to upper left as Antarctica rotates clockwise, raised the issue of the Earth wobble showing up on this cam.  Neumayer is located in Antarctica below the UK/GMT so during this sunrise the cam is turning East but the Sun is over Australia at noon in Australia. The Earth wobble at this time has the N Pole of Earth pushed away, where it remains until 18 hours later for the bounce back. The wobble at this time, during the Neumayer sunrise, it tilting the N Pole to the right, and for the 3 hour period remains such no doubt, thus not discernable on the overlap image.

Neumayer can be confusing as the cam is in a glass box and reflections on the inside of the box occur when the Sun is behind the cam. In these cases, the reflection moves opposite to the real Sun, moves left to right. This is covered in this newsletter. http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue303.htm

This past January, 2014 Neumayer showed the SS at sunset. http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue388.htm

The Dark Twin has also been captured by Neumayer in what is the middle of the night for Neumayer, the cam looking out into the night sky. Once again the DT moves from lower right to upper left as the globe turns from West to East. http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/14ap2012.htm

I hate Neumayer, as it always takes 2 hours of my time to sort out 1. where it is on Antarctica, 2. what time zone applies, 3. where the cam is facing, 4. what is a reflection and what not (and they turn on the lights there to at night, so more reflections). Don't bring Newmayer up again to me or I'll spit on you. Like a cat. "Hisss". I hate Neumayer. We have enough examples of the DT and PX near the Sun without dealing with this headache. My opinion.

OrdinaryDragon said:

Can the Zeta's give comment on why they moved the field of view for the camera down so it doesn't cover the sky now?

Accepted. Best analysis of the oil price war I've seen, very very comprehensive!

Jorge said:

The low price of oil product of the production increase by Saudi Arabia, new policy
which they have stated they will not step back from, has several different
impacts.

First, it favors the oil non-producing countries, which have to import and pay the price for it, Europe and China included. Secondly it is detrimental to other oil producing countries, which have less reserves and/or higher production costs. They´ll get less money for the oil they export. Among them, of course, Venezuela, Russia and Iran. Russia and Iran are supporters of the Assad´s regime in Syria, which both the US and Saudi Arabia want to see gone. It is also detrimental to the recently developing shale oil producers in the US, just because their cost of production is higher. The same applies to the UK oil producers in the North Sea (Scotland), which will no more seek its independence from the UK because Scotlande is now more dependent on the Union to finance itself. So, it helps the UK and the English royalty, in a certain sense. Other result of this move, is that it propels the US Dollar upwards, while making the Russian Ruble value go dramatically down. Even though an important portion of Russia´s exports is still paid in US Dollars, with contracts signed, so that Russia is still making money, the low value of the Ruble will generate problems on the internal demand in Russia. And yes, Saudi Arabia will make much less money by selling its crude at a lower price, but they just don´t care about it (yet). They can afford it. Finally, in a certain extent it encourages the use of oil instead of gas, just because oil is now cheaper, even though gas will probably
never be totally replaced by oil since gas is a much ¨greener¨ fuel than oil. In summary, the ¨oil weapon¨ has been used to attack Russia, Iran and Venezuela, while coming in support of the US policies and the US Dollar. Many questions may arise from this development: Will this commercial war extend until the hour of the PS? How deep down will the low cost of oil take the Russian economy? Is Saudi Arabia going to be punished by this policy anyhow? In what extent is Saudi Arabia in the know about the PS? If they are, how does this cheap oil policy relate to their plans for the pending passage? Are they just trying to
sell as much oil as they can, before the passage? Is the Saudi elite just going to grab the money and flee to Australia, leaving their people back on their own in the Saudi country, future next door neighbor of the new South Pole (a future Siberia?) How is it related to the pending Announcement? For sure all of these little wars, political and power moves, attacks on the economies, terrorism, etc., do not precisely help in any way to prepare for the PS, but are rather distractions of valuable time, energy and resources. Would the Zetas like to comment?
[and from another]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/13/oil-price-crash_n_6311648....
Saudi Arabia has two options: They can cut their own production and therefore lose revenue and market share, or they can just let the price fall, thinking that the higher cost of production leads to a drop in supply on its own. Saudi Arabia is signaling that if OPEC needs to cut production levels, they want other exporters who are not members of OPEC to cut their production as well. What’s changed fundamentally in the market in the last few years is the dramatic increase in U.S. oil production. There are few other instances in history when oil production has grown so quickly. I think we’re still learning a lot about U.S. oil production. Other oil producers are opting to wait and see what happens, and then take a decision.
[and from another]
http://timelinesdb.com/listevents.php?subjid=405&title=OPEC
1973 During the OPEC oil embargo oil prices were increased fourfold. Japan experienced its first oil crises with the Middle East war. The US experienced a gasoline shortage.
1973 Oct 20 Arab oil-producing nations banned oil exports to the United States, following the outbreak of Arab-Israeli war.
2000 Sep 10 In Austria OPEC ministers planned to call for a 2% raise in oil output. Ministers approved a 3% hike of 800,000 barrels of oil.
2001 Mar 17 OPEC decided to curtail its official output by 4 percent, or 1 million barrels of oil a day, in an effort to halt a recent slide in oil prices, a decision the Bush administration called "disappointing."
2001 Dec 5 Russia agreed to cut its oil exports by 150,000 barrels a day to satisfy OPEC demands.
2013 Dec 4 OPEC leaders meeting in Austria agreed to hold its crude production ceiling at 30 million barrels per day despite oversupply concerns and competition from cheaper shale oil.
2014 Nov 27 Saudi Arabia led the 12-member OPEC oil ministers meeting in Austria. OPEC opted to keep their production target at 30 million barrels a day, despite an oversupply of crude and plunging prices.
[and from another]
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/28/7302827/oil-prices-opec
OPEC is now engaged in a price war with oil producers in the United States. The cartel will let prices keep falling in the hopes that many of the newest drilling projects in the US will prove unprofitable and shut down. It's also a sign that OPEC's influence over global oil markets may be waning. In the United States, companies began using techniques like fracking and horizontal drilling to extract oil from shale formations.



SOZT
Why is OPEC, and primarily Saudi Arabia, engaged in an oil price war that is driving prices below where OPEC countries can make a profit? This is a standard business practice to eliminate competitors, as oil production is currently exceeding demand. But it also is striving to give OPEC countries, predominantly in the Middle East, more clout. 40 years ago, OPEC could terrorize the world by limiting their oil production, driving prices to an exorbitant level, and did so between 1973-1975 to protest the Arab-Israeli war. At that time OPEC was comprised of Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Algeria, Bahrain, Egypt, Libya, and Syria.

It was Israel that was seen as the enemy in 1973, the aggressor, engaged in land grabs, a practice it continues today in its rapacious treatment of Palestinians. In response to this OPEC leverage, western countries increased their own oil production, and a decade ago an oil glut was apparent. Controlling output to keep prices up has been in place, with all oil producing countries cooperating until very recently in 2013. What changed? Saudi Arabia can afford this price war, while other members of OPEC cannot and are hurting. It is theorized that the Saudis are trying to drive US shale production
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/28/7302827/oil-prices-opec
out of business, but is there more to the picture?

There is conflict between the Sunni and Shia religious sects. Saudi Arabia is 95% Sunni,
http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/features/shia-and-sunni-muslims-do-yo...
while Iran is 90% Shia. Thus Iran is willing to fight the newly emerged ISIS movement, which is also Sunni, while the Saudis are reluctant to do so. While the US was in Iraq, having removed the Sunni dictator Saddam Hussein and his Republican Guard, Saudi Arabia felt that the Shia in the region would be held in check. Now Obama has ended the Iraq war and made it quite clear that boots on the ground will not be re-established. What is this price war about? The Saudis want to return to the days when they could dictate policy.  
EOZT

Where beautifully written and, I agree, touching on many things the Zetas have attempted to explain as "God's plan". For instance that many sub-atomic particles are designed to be in constant motion by their desire to be attracted to each other yet avoid crowding, like electrons, magnetons, and gravitons do.) But the reason for the general rule that the Zetas do not want to be involved in explaining what ANOTHER meant, whether a valid channeled work of just blather, is that it takes time otherwise spend on ZetaTalk. The Seven Hermetic Principles is obviously standing on its own, just fine, without Zeta comment. Whether it was written by a human or an Annunaki matters not, they are hominoid peers, and both groups have STO orientated members.

Jorge said:

I don´t know if this issue would be of interest to many, but here it goes. The Seven Hermetic Principles

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