ZetaTalk Chat for August 28, 2010

[Nancy Lieder]

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[Derrick Johnson]

Hi Kris

My advice if you can’t find exactly what you are looking for doing a search for an obvious term is to try and remember words or a fraise in the article that may not have anything to do with the subject, it will narrow it down.

It works sometimes:)


Kris H said:

Thanks Derrick, I was looking for this one, but wasn't having much luck...

[Sathya]

Noah probably wasn't popular in his neighborhood and luckily he didn't have any local ordinances that banned him from building an ark in his backyard...and his family and friends probably had a few choice words about his behavior as well as rounding up "two of a kind" of every creature. So we will likely all face some type of questioning even ridicule. Think what Nancy has been through. I doubt that any of us have been through some of the stress she's endured. But she's still here persevering as must we all. Our future depends on us. Sathya

Derrick Johnson said:

Hi Kseny here is some related ZetaTalk you may be interested in.

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta391.htm

The Zetas have mentioned that it is best to be subtle and low key in dealing with friends and family members regarding Planet X and the coming Earth Changes. Many have tried this approach with success being somewhat mixed. I agree that low key is best but overall the progress at this point in time towards awakening people to what lies ahead seems modest to me, at least based on my own experience and observations. People are aware that something is up for sure, but to try and get them to connect the dots is hard. Do the zetas have any additional suggestions? Wait until the earth changes really kick in or press ahead now?

We are endlessly asked this type of question. Our advice has been to not press those in denial, but lay out your case, stressing Earth changes in the past that cannot be denied, or perhaps the Jewish Exodus mentioned in the Bible as an example of the last pole shift. Geological changes in the Earth, with the oceans of the globe dropping, universally, 16-20 feet 3,600 years ago, a fact not argued by scientists, or the demise of the last of the mammoths an estimated 3,500-3,800 years ago as some examples of facts. Be sure to mention what one is to do about the situation, steps that one can take to survive and live afterwards, as even if the arguments are being dismissed, the subconscious records this. When the Earth changes pick up, undeniable evidence of a pending passage, those who can deal with reality will come to you to discuss the matter. Those who cannot will go deeper into denial, and there is nothing you can do about this. Pressing those who are frightened by the message only increases denial. Be low-key.

http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b98.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta270.htm



Ksenya Lim said:

What is the best way to convince people that time is up and that our comfortable life is about to end?

[Stra]

Thanks Derrick, much obliged!

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as much addressed already. This is one of the most frequently asked questions:
http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b96.htm
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta183.htm
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta270.htm
http://zetatalk.com/poleshft/p47.htm

Ksenya Lim said:

What is the best way to convince people that time is up and that our comfortable life is about to end?

[Nancy Lieder]

Yes, addressed already. Read in this chat for Karst formation. This is true worldwide. Find a map for your area.
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/19ju2010.htm
Karst topography, resulting from the erosion of limestone (which dissolves in water wash), creates caves and subsequent sinkholes when the area is distressed by fracturing of rock during earthquakes or the daily Earth wobble. The Appalachian area is riddled with such caves and escarpments. The predicted New Madrid adjustment will pull the N American continent at a diagonal so that rock adjustments will occur from the New England and Great Lakes regions all the way to southern Texas and thence to Mexico. Many new sinkholes will open up in those regions subject to limestone erosion. This does not alter the fact that the Appalachian mountains are high ground, fertile ground, and free from volcanic activity. Safety is a relative term. There is no "safe place".

Stra said:

Question for the Zetas:

Is there a (geological) terrain type that is more prone to sinkholes than others? Or are there places around the globe that are far more prone to sinkholes than others? There has been an increase lately, so I'm wondering where should I tread lightly. :)

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted for lands near the poles during the week of rotation stoppage, a general question of dangers, added sea level height. Not accepted for details on your safe locations as you seem to have a good handle on it.

Eugene said:

Hi Nancy .
Thanks again for the hard work.
Greeting to the Zetas and the valuable information you bring.

I have studied what has been said about Africa and in particular South Africa.

Our planning for safe locations, includes solving problems pertaining to fresh water supplies, crop growing possibilities and safety from crowds that have not planned for this event and possibly become a threat to those that have.
We are also trying to find a good location, that will be close to coastal areas after the shift, realizing of course that waters will take time to subside. I am thinking of the sea as a good source of food in the after-time, but concerned getting too close in the initial stages(because of water flow to the poles(the Atlantic and Indian ocean ) initially, and sloshing thereafter). Traveling also prohibits long distances assuming on foot or horseback if that possibility arises, so I am trying to find an optimum distance that is safe beforehand, yet practical when the waters have subsided, to move to, not leaving the distance too far.
I live in Johannesburg and in Particular a suburb called Constantia Kloof and live pretty high up on the hill , around 1630 m above sea level.We are around 600 km from the coast. I realize the dangers of crowds here so do not see this as my safe location for a number of reasons.

As per the Zetas :...During the week when rotation stops, the waters of the earth will drift toward the poles, so during the shift will have a tendency to rush to fill the gaps in the Atlantic and Indian Oceans. Water on the move is unpredictable and forceful, and South Africa will stick out into this maelstrom unprotected. Those wanting to survive the shift should move well inland and return only after water sloshing has stopped, a period of several days, to be safe....
My highlighted maelstrom above has me concerned, as to the suggested 150 to 200km inland safe zone for the floods. I am concerned as South Africa is formed at the bottom of Africa as a pointed tip, with waters from the Indian and Atlantic flowing strongly towards the South Pole in my case, walls of water converging from both sides and as they approach the southern tip of our country, will meet up , which means a possible safe zone of maybe 200 kms each side, limiting the closeness we can reach to the coast beforehand.
The Drakensberg has been mentioned as a good place, but we cannot build appropriate shelters or bunkers there as the higher up areas are owned by government at present which makes the preparation illegal, now when its important.

Can the Zetas please comment as to the above. Good areas to consider, before our final move to a coastal area after the floods, that wont take many weeks to move to, assuming we are on foot, and doing this with a potential group of about 50 people.
Thank you
Eugene

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted

Coug said:

Can the Zetas tell us if these newly discovered oil eating microbes are indigenous to the Gulf of Mexico or were they introduced by benevolent entities?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0824/newly-discovered-oileating-mic...

[Nancy Lieder]

Classic String of Pearls. Moons in a swirl. See appropriate section of these newsletters - 169 and 172
http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/archives.htm


Denis said:

What is this?

Original link from NASA:
http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/browse//2010/08/24/ahead/cor2/1024/20100824_090935_n7c2A.jpg

[rhiannon]

I was surprised to read that there are as many incarnated Star Children as there are reincarnating "original human" souls! (http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b93.htm) For some reason, I thought Star Children were more rare and human souls more common. I had a question about Star Children regarding whether they usually know what they are, and I just found the answer (http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b21.htm)...

...but I am wondering about the increase in walk-ins to create more Star Children - is their number still rising steadily? Would a previously unsparked human (or its peers) notice if it suddenly "got a soul?"

I also have a few related questions: Do humans who have not sparked a soul make The Call? If so, with what are the visitors conversing? Does making The Call have anything to do with a likelihood of sparking?

Thank you as always for your assistance, Nancy and ZT.

[Derrick Johnson]

Hi Rhiannon

Here is ZetaTalk explaining Star Children are not walk-in’s

http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b21.htm

Here is Zetatalk about a walk in if you haven’t read it yet

http://www.zetatalk3.com/beinghum/b97.htm

Here is ZetaTalk about people noticing a STS Walk in.

http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b26.htm

Here is Zetatalk explaining that the call is given by the soul.

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/07ag2010.htm

I am trying to understand why STO aliens are allowed to intervene for those making extremely strong STO calls (such as in the case of rarely-done healings) but STS aliens are not allowed to intervene for those making extremely strong STS calls… is this true? If so, why? Are STS given less permission to intervene via the Council of Worlds than STO, or am I missing something? Part of my difficulty with this is in thinking about children. "Those in the Service-to-Self are not allowed to affect the physical environment of a child, as given their nature they would surely attempt to maximize terror in those too young to have perspective. They are only allowed to answer The Call from a youngster on an intellectual basis - a conference." http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v36.htm From what we (humans) assume about child psychology, there is almost wholly self-focused concern until a child reaches a certain age, thus I would think that children might make almost exclusively STS calls. Even if STS aliens are only allowed to confer with them, I wonder whether this doesn't subconsciously create undue fear and/or negative influence anyway? Children are so sensitive to "vibes" and intentions of others.

It is certainly untrue that children are entirely or even mostly self focused. In their communications to adults, they may seem this way, because the adult seldom hears from the child unless the child is in need or in trouble. Some of the difficulty in sorting this concept out is due to a failure to realize that The Call is not given, in actuality, by the human being incarnated, but by the soul. The Call is in essence a conference between spirits, with the bodies coming along like so much necessary baggage. Yes, it is true that the rules are different for those visitors in the Service-to-Self, who for instance would not be allowed to conduct a healing, as they in fact are not interested in healing another but in gaining leverage with and chits from the one healed. The Service-to-Self are restricted from doing UFO displays, too, for these same reasons. The message they would communicate would be for mankind to be afraid, as fear drives one to the Service-to-Self orientation.



rhiannon said:

I was surprised to read that there are as many incarnated Star Children as there are reincarnating "original human" souls! (http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b93.htm) For some reason, I thought Star Children were more rare and human souls more common. I had a question about Star Children regarding whether they usually know what they are, and I just found the answer (http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b21.htm)...

...but I am wondering about the increase in walk-ins to create more Star Children - is their number still rising steadily? Would a previously unsparked human (or its peers) notice if it suddenly "got a soul?"

I also have a few related questions: Do humans who have not sparked a soul make The Call? If so, with what are the visitors conversing? Does making The Call have anything to do with a likelihood of sparking?

Thank you as always for your assistance, Nancy and ZT.

[julia wall]

Dear Nancy,

Thank you for your words of encouragement !

I've copied the original post/questions below, if you could please ask the Zetas :-)

Much love & thanks

Julia


Subject: mongolia

"Mongolia will be somewhat warmer than the northern provinces of China, which are listed in Safe Locations. I would suggest posting this on the Q&A for 8/28 and it will be accepted! Link at upper left on the ning home page.
From julia wall to Nancy Lieder
Sent Aug 23

Dear Nancy & Zetas,

Thank you for your patience, help and much needed information already provided by yourselves :-)

Since finding out about potential world events I have felt a 'pull' to possibly re-locate to Mongolia.

I've searched through the zeta website and the location page, but found no specific reference to what may happen to the country/region of Mongolia.

Please could you give any advice/ and or information regarding Mongolia specifically during and after the polar shift?

Thank you again, for all your help,

much love
julia
"

[Larry Taylor]

Zetas, are there any circumstances/reasons to not give the Call?

Nancy, thank you for all you do.