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Could the Zeta say something about this latest finding. "‘Our solar system just got weirder’: Bizarre new planet with offbeat orbit stumps scientists"https://www.rt.com/viral/355581-neptune-orbit-planet-scientists/ and also on  https://www.rt.com/viral/355581-neptune-orbit-planet-scientists/ . They aren not talking about planet 9 here but they say this new planet has a retrograde orbit just as the Zetas say about Nibiru It seems that in some time they will combine the 2 'findings' the one about planet 9 and the one about this 'planet;' ?

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Gerard Zwaan said:

Could the Zeta say something about this latest finding.


I wanted to see if you could provide insight into the newly discovered planet "Niku", is this Nibiru.
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Bizarre new planet with offbeat orbit stumps scientists. They aren not talking about planet 9 here but they say this new planet has a retrograde orbit just as the Zetas say about Nibiru It seems that in some time they will combine the 2 'findings' the one about planet 9 and the one about this 'planet;' ?
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https://amp.businessinsider.com/niku-mysterious-object-orbiting-bey...
Scientists noticed that rebel Niku seems to be hanging around a gang of other strangely aligned objects. At first glance, the scientists thought that this might suggest that Planet Nine, a hypothetical planet that would be about as much as 10 times as massive as Earth, might be pulling on the objects. But it turns out that the rebellious object would be out of Planet Nine's reach, too free-living to succumb to the undiscovered planet's gravitational attraction. So exactly what's going on is still a mystery.
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https://www.rt.com/viral/355581-neptune-orbit-planet-scientists/
The Pan-STARRS 1 telescope in Hawaii spotted the mini planet Niku. A tiny, mystery planet located on the far side of Neptune is breaking all the rules and leaving scientists baffled.  Niku, named after Chinese word for ‘Rebel’, has a diameter of just 200km (120 miles), is 160,000-times smaller than Neptune and behaves like no other similarly-sized planet in the Solar System. This trans-Neptunian object orbits the Sun in a retrograde direction, meaning it rotates in the opposite direction to the Sun’s rotation. The angle it takes for this unusual orbit is at 110 degrees to the flat plane of the Solar System, on which other planets move around the Sun. Matthew Holman of Harvard-Smithsonian Centre for Astrophysics was among the team of scientists who discovered Niku and admits this phenomenon throws up many questions. He said: “It suggests there's more going on in the outer Solar System than we're fully aware of.” It's quite possible Niku is part of a group of highly-inclined objects all moving in a strange orbital pattern around the Solar System.





SOZT
This is a big Prong 3 push. The key word is “retrograde”, which is characteristic of Nibiru in both its orbit past the Sun, its rotation, and the rotation of the swirls in its tail. Retrograde is a clockwise motion. All else in the Solar System goes counter clockwise – the Sun, the Sun’s rotation, and the orbiting planets. We explained this at the start
http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s85.htm
of the ZetaTalk saga. The ancients were also aware that Nibiru would approach with a retrograde orbit. This retrograde swirl in the tail of Nibiru shows up in Alberto’s photos, as the tail swirls out from Nibiru at the 4 o’clock position to the Sun, thence under the Sun, then upward to the left side of the Sun, thence overhead of the Sun.

Niku is not Nibiru, but is a moon that formerly traveled with Nibiru, and thus its retrograde orbit within the Solar System. If Prong 1 introduced the concept of the Sun’s dark binary 18.74 Sun-Pluto distances out toward Orion, and Prong 2 introduced the concept of many exoplanets near and far, most nearby still being discovered, then Prong 3 was to introduce Nibiru near the Sun. The theme throughout was that astronomers were being surprised by what they find, and more join the search to answer open questions raised by these discoveries. Now we hear that odd retrograde objects are discovered. Soon one that entered the Solar System in 2003 will show up on the Dark Energy Survey, and lead to Nibiru itself.
EOZT

Prior 1997 ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s85.htm
As the 12th Planet approaches, moving steadily closer and picking up speed due to the gravity tug of the Sun, the energy field from the Sun is more intense and takes longer to sweep past. The 12th Planet's reaction to this is still a slight movement sweeping ahead of this energy field, but as the energy field passes is then a stronger jerk backwards, away from the passing arm of the Sun's energy field.  The backward reaction is due to the nature of the sweeping arm, like the cutting edge of a knife most intense at the cutting edge of the arm, but with more bulk of the energy field trailing after the cutting edge. Thus, as the sweeping arm of this energy field passes the 12th Planet, which in no way could stay ahead of this sweeping arm at the distance it is from the Sun, the 12th Planet's reaction to the bulk of the energy field is longer lasting and begins to produce a retrograde orbit for its approach to the Sun. Thus it develops a retrograde orbit and begins to move to the right, in the manner the ancients recorded.

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Now that there is much in the news about a new study which refutes the theory on how humans populated North America perhaps the Zetas would further comment on what is already in Zetatalk in particular the section on the American Indian. After reading the section on the American Indian i've always wondered where indeed they were transplanted from and what bones or fossils have actually been found and recently or historically studied from the prior race of transplanted hominoids. Is there any more information about this topic of transplanted hominoids, are there any papers or information on the bones or fossils that could be shared by the Zetas such as perhaps how it might relate to the information on the internet about the New World Monkey, it seems that some of the prior race of transplanted hominoids could also have evolved or have been engineered into these 'New world monkeys' as well as the American Indian. Are there any details of the American Indian genetically engineered similar to the way the ape was engineered. In looking at pictures of various New world monkeys and historical photos of the American Indian there does seem be some similarity in the facial features. Also regarding the new studies mentioned above the media seems to want to keep up with the old rhetoric that the first humans in the Americas absolutely had to have migrated here from the Old World ignoring the evidence of pre-clovis civilizations and other ancient campsite evidence.
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http://www.history.com/news/new-study-refutes-theory-of-how-humans-...
Scholars have long theorized that the first humans to populate the North American continent likely traversed a long-vanished land bridge that once linked Siberia and Alaska over the Bering Strait. A new study published today in the journal Nature, however, challenges the conventional view by finding that the entry route was not “biologically viable” until hundreds of years after the first Ice-Age humans arrived on the continent. Archaeological studies have found that human colonization of North America by the so-called Clovis culture dates back more than 13,000 years ago, and recent archaeological evidence suggests that people could have been on the continent 14,700 years ago—and possibly even several millennia before that. The conventional thought has been that the first migrants who populated the North American continent arrived across an ancient land bridge from Asia once the enormous Cordilleran and Laurentide ice sheets receded to produce a passable corridor nearly 1,000 miles long that emerged east of the Rocky Mountains in present-day Canada. While later groups may have used the passageway across the land bridge between Siberia and Alaska, the study’s authors say the first humans in North America likely migrated along the Pacific coast, although it is still not known exactly how.
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https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/08/11/first-american-migran...
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http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-early-americans...




SOZT
This whole controversy is a non-issue, due entirely to Pole Shift denial. Of course the Bering Straits were not frozen over all the time. Nor were they flooded to the degree they are today either. 18,000 years ago the N Pole moved from N America to Scandinavia and 14,400 years ago moved from Scandinavia to the Barents Sea. Thus the Bering Straits were hardly frozen solid 14,700 years ago when the presumed migration from Asia would have occurred. This type of fractured thinking is typical of many humans, who cannot deal with ALL the facts so discard what does not fit. The Earth did not have Ice Ages, it had crustal shifts. Nothing else fits.  
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w55.htm
A controversy exists on whether the American Indian migrated from what is now China or are themselves a distinct hominoid race. Both origins are true. The American Indian bears the marks of shared genetics with Asians that crossed the land bridge to Alaska, but the root race was much older and unique to the Americas. Unlike the six races of man, who were formed by genetically engineering an ape of Earth, the American Indian was a transplanted hominoid who arrived far earlier. Why have their bones not been found? The bones that have been found all bear the traces of the inbreeding that occurred when Asians arrived. What is discovered from the prior race of transplanted hominoids is not recognized for what it is. This race was slight in build, and is taken for monkey bones when found on the rare occasion that a cremation was not performed - a death in the woods, on a hunt, with the body never found. And where the American Indian was originally a transplant, through the considerable encounters with other races that all the races of man have experienced, the special genetics of this transplant can no longer be discerned.

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First off, is this legit or just the spinners? If so, why are Dems' info being leaked? Though I am waking up and finally realizing that both the left and right wing belong to the same bird. Dems are exponentially more inherently good and fight for good. Shouldn't it be the GOP being hacked?
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Hacker Reveals Personal Information for Almost 200 Democrats
August 13, 2016
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hacker-reveals-personal-information-for...
Guccifer 2.0 says records stolen as part of breach of Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
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Nancy Pelosi is flooded with 'sick and obscene' phone calls after 'Russian' hacker posted House Democrats' private numbers
August 13, 2016
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3739253/Pelosi-warns-collea...
Pelosi told Democratic lawmakers that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and other Democratic Party entities were the target of 'an electronic Watergate break-in' after personal and official information of Democratic House members and congressional staff was posted online. As a result, a mix of personal and official information of Democratic members and hundreds of congressional staff, purportedly from a hack of the DCCC, was posted online. The chief administrative officer of the House has also sent an email stating that the House computer system has not been compromised, but urged members and staff to be vigilant about opening emails and websites.
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Debbie Wasserman Schultz to Resign D.N.C. Post
July 25, 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/debbie-wasserman-schu...
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, abruptly said she was resigning after a trove of leaked emails showed party officials conspiring to sabotage the campaign of Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. The day also veered extraordinarily into allegations, not easily dismissed, that Russia had a hand in the leaks that helped bring down the head of an American political party.
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As Democrats Gather, a Russian Subplot Raises Intrigue
July 24, 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-e...
Proving the source of a cyberattack is notoriously difficult. But researchers have concluded that the national committee was breached by two Russian intelligence agencies, which were the same attackers behind previous Russian cyberoperations at the White House, the State Department and the Joint Chiefs of Staff last year. And metadata from the released emails suggests that the documents passed through Russian computers.

SOZT
Who is hacking the Democrats? The DNC hacker, who released emails showing how Debbie skewed the DNC backing
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/26de2015.htm
for Hillary, has not yet been identified, though Seth Rich, the 27 year old DNC worker who was shot, assassination style, on the streets of Washington DC likely lost his life due to suspicions it was he. But the Russians were blamed, anyway. Wikileaks releases information they garner from many sources,
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/04de2010.htm
without identifying the source, although the fact that Wikileaks has offered a reward for the Seth Rich assassin more or less confirms he was the source.

We explained during the Sony hack in 2014
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/25ap2015.htm
that clues pointing to the N Koreans were encoded in the released data to confuse the trail and protect the true hackers. Pelosi was quick to blame the Russians when her laptop was hacked too. This assumption was based on metadata clues pointing to Russian computers.  It was not the Russians, in neither the DNC nor DCCC case. Who is being punished, and distracted, and who stands to gain or lose? We have referred to the Transformation Team that includes Anonymous and ourselves, the Zetas, and the Council of Worlds – none of which want Hillary in the White House. We did it.
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/04de2010.htm
Wikileaks in the past has targeted the DOD and admits planning a future leak with banks as the target. This time, it was Hillary Clinton's State Department. Is there anything going on here beyond Wikileaks founder Julian Assange's hatred toward the secrets of the powerful and Hillary Clinton's red face? Instructions for her diplomats to act as spies for the US intelligence agencies, even at the UN, came out under her signature. Who stands to gain, and who to lose? Certainly Clinton has lost stature and effectiveness, and may be required to resign under cover of her husband's poor health. The leaked State Department documents reportedly came from a single private, downloading documents at work in Iraq. Was this arranged, and if so, by whom? Clearly, such communications are classified, and there is no indication that this private should have had access to such. The documents were deliberately made vulnerable, and the private directed to their location. Is Hillary Clinton, as a brassy and control oriented woman, well liked by the military? Hardly. The military in general resents any woman in charge. Connect the dots, folks.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/25ap2015.htm
When we announced that the Council of Worlds would be going to war with the elite over their blockage of the announcement, the tools available to the Council were not immediately apparent. Early in the campaign the Sony hack showed one such mechanism, whereby an anonymous hacker revealed embarrassing information about Sony executives. The perpetrator was not N Korea, though the hack was encoded to imply this. The hack was done by existing anonymous hacking networks, who were encouraged during routine contact with benign aliens and assisted in their endeavors by having their electronic fingerprints removed by these same benign aliens.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/26de2015.htm
This breach was certainly not the first, as Sanders points out on his website. Sanders informed the DNC about firewall problems in the past, and was ignored, as the DNC is in the tank for Hillary and did not care if Sanders’ data was being breached.

Besides Democrat hack also information came out about Soros. https://www.rt.com/usa/355919-soros-hacked-files-released/ 

"They reveal work plans, strategies, priorities and other activities by Soros, and include reports on European elections, migration and asylum in Europe."   And from http://soros.dcleaks.com/ Soros is named an architect and a sponsor of almost every revolution and coup around the world for the last 25 years. The USA is thought to be a vampire due to him and his puppets, not a lighthouse of freedom and democracy. His minions spill blood of millions and millions of people just to make him even more rich. Could the Zetas say something more about this hack?

Hi Nancy, are the Zetas able to comment on this crop circle from a few days ago.  It is very large and unusually complex compared to most others - perhaps a big middle finger to the fakers who could never do anything like this and certainly not in one night as this one was apparently, according to the Daily Mail who say: "The circle appeared overnight in a wheat field and no footprints or evidence of human involvement were found."

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2016/Ansty/Ansty2016a.html

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Gerard Zwaan said:

Besides Democrat hack also information came out about Soros.

Besides Democrat hack also information came out about Soros. Could the Zetas say something more about this hack?
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https://www.rt.com/usa/355919-soros-hacked-files-released/
They reveal work plans, strategies, priorities and other activities by Soros, and include reports on European elections, migration and asylum in Europe.
[and from another]
http://soros.dcleaks.com/
Soros is named an architect and a sponsor of almost every revolution and coup around the world for the last 25 years. The USA is thought to be a vampire due to him and his puppets, not a lighthouse of freedom and democracy. His minions spill blood of millions and millions of people just to make him even more rich.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/16/hacked-soros-mem...
Hacked Soros Memo: $650,000 to Black Lives Matter. George Soros’s Open Society Institute viewed the 2015 Baltimore unrest following the death of Freddie Gray as opening a “unique opportunity” to create “accountability” for the Baltimore police while aiding activists in reforming the city, according to hacked documents reviewed by Breitbart Jerusalem.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-16/soros-hack-reveals-plot-be...
In a section titled, “Our Ambitions,” the authors explain: “Our premise for engaging in work related to governance was that, in addition to mitigating the negative effects of enforcement, we should also be supporting actors in the field proactively seeking to change the policies, rules, and regulations that govern migration.”



SOZT
In the past we have described Soros as an arrogant kingmaker, a provocateur
http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ma2015.htm
who incites jihad and race wars and riots for his personal benefit. This encompasses supporting Black Lives Matter in the US, supporting Mohammad cartoon contests in the US, and ISIS terrorism attempts in the US, (though the latter were countered by good intel so did not manifest). He wants Martial Law declared in the US to protect the assets of the wealthy, and is trying to tip the hand of Obama and Dunford to force this. He has made his billions in the Hedge Fund business, betting on chaos, and then arranges for the chaos to happen.

Soros hand in Europe
http://zetatalk.com/ning/16jy2016.htm
is just as devastating. He incited the coup in Kiev and the downing of MH17, all the while trying to blame Russia, and tries to incite NATO to attack Russia. Is he responsible for the Syrian migration into Europe and the chaos that has followed? He is an opportunist who has expedited this at every step. Once again, the kingmaker wants to be in control, and destabilizing the existing governance is a setting he desires so he can have a hand in the shape of things to come. In his mind, it does not hurt if Europe and the Euro end up in flames as being a Hedge Fund gambler, he will have as usual arranged to get rich off of the misfortune of others.

The Soros agenda is well known, but what is the agenda of those who hacked and released his Open Society Institute emails? It is no coincidence that Soros sustained a hack exposing his role in the Black Lives Matter riots and migration of ISIS jihadists into Europe and the US at the same time that the DNC hack exposed their illegal support of Hillary and the DCCC came under harassment by having the Demo phone numbers and email addresses made public. The nexus is Hillary, whom Soros has supported immensely. She is the war candidate, the race riot candidate, the Wall Street and Hedge Fund candidate, and corporate outsourcing candidate. Support Hillary? Beware!  
EOZT

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ma2015.htm
George Soros failed in his efforts to push Russia back from the Ukraine and the Crimea, and has admitted he failed. But in the past he has had his successes so is arrogant. Investigative reporters have uncovered 33 million in Soros monies to spur rioting and protests in Fergusen and Baltimore. George Soros, like Dick Cheney, imagines himself a kingmaker, someone above a king, akin to God, in being able to manipulate human society.

Prior ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/30ma2015.htm
Who is behind the attempts to bring ISIS attacks to the US? Soros is known for supporting ultra-left organizations, including those supporting Islamic principles. When one aspires to be a kingmaker, the ability to incite a jihad is a card to be held. The elite desire to force Obama to declare martial law to defend their enclaves and assets is making strange bedfellows. If race riots and ISIS jihad do not do the trick, then First Amendment challenges to gun rights, such as the Brady Ranch incident, may be added to the mix.

Prior ZT: http://zetatalk.com/ning/16jy2016.htm
We have stated that Soros is responsible for inciting violence in Europe. His hand lies behind the coup in Kiev, the lies about the downing of MH 17, the push against Russia in Europe wherein NATO claims a pending Russian invasion when the opposite is the case. Soros wants Russian oil and gas, and Russian territory, under his control and influence.

Declined as an obvious hoax. It is the Mothership Glass logo. Note where a letter is placed in more than one location on the logo. Likewise with the CC, directly across the circle. No footprints as the grain is so well mashed, so completely, that no footprint would be needed.



Mark said:

Hi Nancy, are the Zetas able to comment on this crop circle from a few days ago.

I admit I have no explanation why it represents that logo but I still don't think it is a fake.  just look at the outside circle of dashes - there is no disturbance of the wheat between each of the dashes - how could the fakers do that?  If it was a fake you should be able to see where the fakers had to cross each dash to make the next one and there would be a gap in the wheat.

and look at how smooth and uniform the wheat has been layered down in the rest of the pattern.  

Also, lets not forget that the Zetas have said repeatedly that the fakers can only handle simple designs where they can peg something in the middle to make simplistic circle designs.

I don't know what it means but imo, respectfully, there is no way I think that this is a fake. 

I hope you take no offence by me restating my case.  

it's even on the FB of mothership glass. It's a obvious fake. https://www.facebook.com/mothershipglass. Why post is there if it was a real one.

"One can even see how the hoax makers went about their business. The very center of this false design in on a tram line, so they could setup the center circle without footprints, then use that small center circle to outline the two outer circles by having someone walk those outer circle lines with an outstretched rope. All this could be accessed from the tram line, leaving no footprints."

http://zetatalk.com/ning/25ju2016.htm



Mark said:

I admit I have no explanation why it represents that logo but I still don't think it is a fake.

Thank you Howard for the quote. Indeed, with 90% of the grain mashed down, no footprints would be expected. I too could step through how they did it, but have better things to do. When I decline or say this or that, I am in contact with the Zetas, just not formalizing the response. You want this put before the Zetas? It is fake of real?

SOZT

Fake.

EOZT

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