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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek. To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

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Charty said:

Can you comment on these somewhat bizarre pictures released today of Cheney, Bush & Co on 911 via a freedom of information act request.

Is this another punch from the COW to show incompetence or are these staged pictures to try and show they were not involved in what was going on?  Seems odd that someone was allowed to take pictures.
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In one photo, then-Vice President Dick Cheney rests his feet on his desk as he watches a live TV news report of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. In the photos, Bush looks tense and even bites his lip as he confers with officials in the President's Emergency Operations Center (PEOC), a highly-secure underground bunker below the White House's East Wing that can withstand nuclear hits and other devastating attacks. The then-President would shortly address the nation about the day's atrocities, which were aired live on TV screens across the world. On the day of the attacks, Cheney, now 74, was in charge at the White House, with Bush visiting a school in Sarasota, Florida, at the time. The newly-released images of Cheney and other officials' reactions to 9/11 were captured by Cheny's staff photographer.  The photos were released by the National Archives following a FOIA request by FRONTLINE filmmaker Colette Neirouz Hanna.
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Photos show members of the Bush administration talking in the President's Emergency Operations Center beneath the White House, Cheney watching the attacks from a TV in his office, and Cheney heading to Camp David on Marine Two with his wife, Lynne. Then-President George W. Bush, then-first lady Laura Bush, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell and then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice can also be seen in the photos.

The photos of Cheney and Bush and their staff during the hours just after the 911 attack are a body-language bonanza. What is crystal clear is that Cheney was in charge, calm and never rattled and on the phone a lot, and Bush was an anxious wreck. Of course 911 was an inside job with Cheney at the helm in the PEOC, where he had been directing a response exercise so similar to the 911 attacks that the exercise delayed the response to the real 911 threat. This was, of course, by design and has never been fully reported by the media, such is the cover-up over 911.

The war in Iraq was called on fraudulent charges as there never were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and 911 was an inside job. With the Council of Worlds at war with those maintaining the cover-up over Nibiru, revelations as to who was responsible for the 911 treason and the war crimes in Iraq may finally be revealed. Even after the announcement, there will be the aftermath, where the cover-up crowd will try to pretend that the Earth changes are not caused by Nibiru and deny the danger to the populace. They hope that life will go on as before, with the elite on top of the pile and the common man befuddled and kept in the dark. The Council does not agree!

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What is it? Some new phenomenon from Planet X? Share information about the mysterious phenomenon.
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An eerie black ring in the sky startled residents of British cities. The video with the strange phenomenon posted on YouTube by one of the residents of the city of Nottingham. On entry ominous black object hovering over the rooftops, and behind the scene are heard the frightened cries of the witnesses. In comments immediately sounded the theory of an extraterrestrial origin of the object. However, experts say that everything is much simpler: it's just a rotating ring of smoke, which can be formed with a sharp burst from the wide cylindrical object like a pipe manufacturing plant. Similar rings can produce smokers or vents of volcanoes. This is confirmed by the fact that at one of the plants in Nottingham then there was an explosion. A few months ago the exact same ring scared and residents of Kazakhstan. Then, too, all caught on camera. On the record shows how this ring gradually dissolves in the air, turning into smoke.
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Curious circles in the sky have been appearing the last few years, and have variously been explained by us as a place where a mothership
had just vacated the clouds, or an incomplete tornado,
or the remnants from a spiral of heat from a petrol reaction
in the atmosphere. The tail of Planet X, aka Nibiru has petrol elements, which as we have explained form the basis of the oil deposits
on Earth.  The recent dark smoke circles have such a basis, when seen at night the petrol whoosh appears as a tower of light and when seen during the day it is seen as a curling pillar of smoke. But when seen directly below the aftermath, only the smoke that has accumulated on the edges of the combustion remains – the smoke circle.

Prior 2007 ZT:
What causes the holes? The recent evacuation of a mothership or large ship, which was there, but concealed by the bending of light rays around the ship. Once the ship leaves, on a cloudy day, the hole in the clouds is at first apparent!

Prior 2009 ZT:
The circle in the sky over Moscow is an incomplete tornado, in fact the remnant of an incomplete tornado. The cloud cover has been broken as rapidly rising air broke through a cold air cap. The reason the cloud cover seems broken, revealing light, only at the edges of the circle is due to the rapid movement of swirling air at the edges. As is known, a tornado has a calm in the center of the swirling tube, the high winds at the edges of the tube. The calm in the center of an incomplete tornado allows the cloud cover to remain in place, where at the edges of the swirl the cloud cover is torn away.

Prior 2008 ZT:
We have discussed the chemical qualities of the charged tail of Planet X, which includes not only debris such as gravel and boulders but also petrochemical components gathered from the Asteroid Belt when it was pelted to pieces in the past. Man is used to thinking of chemical reactions involving petrochemical components and oxygen as an explosion, happening suddenly - boom! But where disbursed and present in barely perceptible quantities, it is more akin to a slow swoosh, creating a spiral of heat that starts a tornado effect in the atmosphere. Where a slow explosion has passed, the smoke created can linger, looking like a dark tornado floating in the air.

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I am sure that I am one of many mentioning this and asking about the accelerations that are taking place regards tectonic plate movements with resulting quakes, volcanic eruptions and tsunamis. The Bermuda Triangle volcano Kick 'em Jenny has been placed on orange alert (red is highest), meaning there are highly elevated levels of seismic and/or venting activity and eruption may begin with less than twenty-four hours' notice. Its summit is ±190m (600ft) below the surface. Since July 11 more than 200 micro and small earthquakes of varying magnitudes have been recorded while today a strong continuous signal was observed on instruments. Eruptions may begin with less than 24hr notice, with tsunami threat. No tsunami alert has been issued yet. A 5 kilometer (3 mile) exclusion zone has also been set up for boat traffic around the volcano. Grenada, St. Vincent, Barbados and Trinidad have been placed on alert. Evacuation routes and transport on standby mainly because of change to water density, that could make boats sink. However, before this awakening volcanic activity there was a mag 6.5 quake 131 NE of Barbados with a swarm of nearly 50 quakes in less than 24 hrs which prompted the National Emergency Council to meet with a team from the University of the West Indies seismic unit. While you/Zetas have always mentioned these zones, it seems that there has been an acceleration, as was predicted to start towards the end of 2015. It seems we have entered the 7-10 scenarios. Though much has been said about this, the timing was left vague, maybe more can be said now?
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July 24, 2015 A submarine volcano near the coast of Grenada in the West Indies (Lesser Antilles) looks like it might be headed towards a new eruption.  
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Kick 'em Jenny Volcano Tsunami Threat: Grenada, St. Vincent, Barbados and Trinidad have been placed on alert! Evacuation routes and transport on standby.  July 24, 2015. Kick 'em Jenny is an active submarine volcano or seamount on the Caribbean Sea floor, located 8 km (5 mi) north of the island of Grenada and about 8 km (5 mi) west of Ronde Island in the Grenadines at roughly 12.30° N, 61.64° W.
Its summit is approximately 200 m (600 ft) below the surface of the ocean.
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Signs of elevated seismicity (earthquakes) began on 11th July and continue to present.

The pace of the 7 of 10 plate movements has indeed picked up, most dramatically in the S American roll. The entire spectrum of the 7 of 10 plate movement, predicted by ourselves to begin at the end of 2010 with sinking in the Sunda Plate region, was slowed by the Council of Worlds. The Sunda Plate sinking we predicted did start on time, but is only about 95% completed. Tilting of the Philippine and Mariana Plates likewise is incomplete, at about 72% and 78% respectively. The S American roll has been sleepy, but over this past month has been notable with quakes along the Andes and in particular where the Caribbean Plate is pushing Central America westward and along the eastern edge of the Caribbean Plate.

Jamaica has sea water rushing inland
on July 8, Trinidad has registered a rip through its center
along the plate border, and now Kick’em Jenny has shown the accuracy of our predictions
re Caribbean volcanoes by becoming active, just a week after the eastern edge of the Caribbean Plate showed it was rupturing. The volcano and 6.5 quake were SEPARATE occurrences, showing that one did not incite the other but that the S American roll was responsible for BOTH occurrences. What is in store for the Caribbean?   The completion
of our 7 of 10 predictions.  Just what the time frame
will be, we cannot say.  

ZetaTalk 2010 Prediction:
The Caribbean Plate will lift, slightly, on its northern edge, while plunging greatly on its southern edge, being pushed down by the overriding S American Plate as it rolls. Of course magma will be roiling, as the pressure from the southern part of the Caribbean Plate being shoved down into the magma will force this magma to go somewhere. It will move in the direction of least resistance, which will be toward the north, and thus it will rush under all volcanoes currently in the Caribbean or in Central America.

ZetaTalk 2010 Prediction:
Aruba, Bonaire, and Curacao ride on the hump, and thus will survive. The island chain along the eastern edge of the Caribbean Plate was formed when the Caribbean Plate was pushed up during expansion of the Atlantic. But this is countered by the hump of S America pushing the Caribbean Plate down, overall. Thus those islands in the chain close to S America will lose in elevation, while those islands at the top of the chain will not. From Antigua south, the islands in this chain can expect a minimum of an elevation drop of 57 feet, on average, with this being irregular throughout due to the trauma to the area. Islands just to the north of S America will be affected the most such that Barbados to Tobago may sink entirely except for the highest points, losing several hundred feet in elevation, and Trinidad will be torn apart in addition to sinking as it rides on the plate border.

Prior 2013 ZT:
Where we are currently waiting for the 7 of 10 plate movements to complete, the stress on the plates is apparent. The sinking of the Sunda Plate and the folding of the Philippine and Mariana plates is approximately 70% complete, but the final moves will occur in conjunction with further progress on the S American roll. Though the cover-up has found it necessary to kill almost all the buoys on the Nazca and Cocos plates, the S American roll has barely begun, perhaps 13% of the overall changes expected. And the African roll is barely twitching

Prior 2015 ZT:
The sinking of the Sunda Plate is now perhaps 93% complete (up from 70% two years ago). The Pacific Plate has steadily compressed, with major quakes in Japan evident and the S American roll progressing to an estimated 27% at the current time (up from 13% two years ago). The African roll has barely started, now at an estimated 12% (up from 5% two years ago). At present, the New Madrid adjustment is perhaps at only 2%, but as the 7 of 10 movements will accelerate, this will now rapidly change.

Nancy is asking a question this week..

Obama seems to be hinting at something here. I know the Zetas stated they would not pick Obama’s mind, not honor questions that ask about his thinking, but here Obama has provided info openly. Is he trying to get people ready for an Executive Order of some sort?
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The host of The Daily Show, who will finish his 17-year run on the show next week, held talks behind closed doors with the President in 2011 and 2014 after being summoned by his aides. Obama made his seventh and final appearance on the show, and told Stewart: 'I can't believe you're leaving before me.
'In fact, I'm issuing a new executive order that Jon Stewart cannot leave the show.' The president continued to kid his host and added the order is 'being challenged in the courts'. July 28, 2015
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Obama White House officials enjoyed it when Stewart was singing from the same hymnal. But they also were quick to pay attention when he turned against them. Obama ultimately appeared seven times on Stewart’s show.
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Obama: ‘I’m a pretty good president’ and if I ran for a Third Term, I could win. July 28, 2015

What is Obama hinting at? Obama made a statement during a speech to the African Union on July 27 that alluded to a third term. This was in the context of discussing African presidents who refused to step aside when their terms had completed, but he was clearly hinting. Might Obama delay or cancel the 2016 elections and continue, under some kind of Executive Order, into what would be called a third term? Then there was the Executive Order joke on Jon Stewart’s show on July 21, implying he could reach outside of normal government actions via his Executive Orders, requiring Jon to continue his show and not retire. Put all this together and it is a pretty strong hint of what is to come!

The peoples of Miao that are mainly in China ( China: 9,426,007,Vietnam: 787,604 Laos: 460,000 ,United States: 209,866, Thailand: 151,080 France: 13,000) have a cult about the goddess NuWa!  The Chinese legend tells how the world was swept by a Great Flood, and only Fu Xi and his sister NüWa survived. The earliest records speak of “Sān Huáng Wǔ Dì”, meaning the “Three August Ones, or Three Sovereigns or Kings” The three Sovereigns are generally denoted as Fu XiNüWa, and Shen Nong Shi. There was a quarrel between two of the more powerful gods, and they decided to settle it with a fight. When the water god Gong Gong saw that he was losing, he smashed his head against Mount Buzhou, a pillar holding up the sky. The pillar collapsed and caused the sky to tilt towards the northwest and the earth to shift to the southeast. This caused great floods and suffering to the people. Nüwa cut off the legs of a giant tortoise and used them to supplant the fallen pillar, alleviating the situation and sealing the broken sky using stones of seven different colours, but she was unable to fully correct the tilted sky. The story of NuWa points it seems towards Nibiru passage? Can Zeta give more insight?


Ovidiu Pricopi said:

The story of NuWa points it seems towards Nibiru passage?

Can Zeta give more insight?
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The peoples of Miao that are mainly in China have a cult about the goddess NuWa!  The Chinese legend tells how the world was swept by a Great Flood, and only Fu Xi and his sister NüWa survived. The earliest records speak of “S?n Huáng W? Dì”, meaning the “Three August Ones, or Three Sovereigns or Kings” The three Sovereigns are generally denoted as Fu Xi,  NüWa, and Shen Nong Shi. There was a quarrel between two of the more powerful gods, and they decided to settle it with a fight. When the water god Gong Gong saw that he was losing, he smashed his head against Mount Buzhou, a pillar holding up the sky. The pillar collapsed and caused the sky to tilt towards the northwest and the earth to shift to the southeast. This caused great floods and suffering to the people. Nüwa cut off the legs of a giant tortoise and used them to supplant the fallen pillar, alleviating the situation and sealing the broken sky using stones of seven different colours, but she was unable to fully correct the tilted sky.

Although the NuWa legend is not dated, the description of the tilt of the globe show this to be the crustal shift from the N Pole position
five steps back. From the current position in the Arctic [0] the N Pole was formerly over Greenland [1] then over the East Siberian Sea [2] then over the Barents Sea [3] off western Siberia then over Scandinavia [4] and then five back, over N America [5]. The shift from N America to Scandinavia was significant, and it was this tilt of the globe that was recorded in the NuWa legend.

For someone in China and southeast Asia used to seeing Polaris and related constellations overhead and slightly to the east, all this shifted at that time to being in the northwest. Thus as the legend says:  “caused the sky to tilt towards the northwest”.  This part of the globe also shifted from being closer to the N Pole to being a greater distance from the N Pole, thus further south, and at the same time shifting eastward. Thus as the legend says: “the earth to shift to the southeast”.  Such a shift would push Asia and the China coastline into the water, thus the flood descriptions. What NuWa does is CONFIRM the ZetaTalk we provided in 2002. Just another example of Zetas Right Again!

Prior 2002 ZT:
The prior shift  moved the North Pole from Greenland to its present location.  Prior to that, it was over the East Siberian Sea, having pulled Siberia northward where the largest number of mammoth dieoff occurred. Tracing the North Pole over the past few shifts, one sees that it spent a time over Scandinavia where it resided between the 4th and 5th shift back. When it moved from Scandinavia into the Arctic north of Siberia, Europe warmed up, its glaciers melting. Prior to Scandinavia, the North Pole centered over North America. The Flood occurred because during the time the North Pole was over North America, the South Pole was over the ocean south of India. When the North Pole moved to Scandinavia, the South Pole repositioned on the other side of Antarctica. However, being over water, the former South Pole melted from the bottom, floating on the water in a honeycombed shape. It retained a lot of cold, as the ocean water coming from Antarctica distributed this cold, so the ice melt was not complete. A subsequent shift lurched this honeycombed ice and fractured it, so it dropped into the ocean creating a displacement wave - the Flood.

As is our usual practice, we are closing this 8/1 Q&A so answers can be prepared for the web. Please post your new questions on the chat for 8/8. Thank you.


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