ZetaTalk Chat for April 28, 2012

[Nancy Lieder]

If you are unsure whether your question should be posed to the Zetas, post it on this discussion first: http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/got-a-question-for-nancy-but(Newcomers welcome)

 

The weekly Q&A chat is for subjects not yet addressed by the Zetas.

1. Commentary chitchat will automatically be deleted. As the 7 of 10 events are happening, unfolding as predicted we anticipate more traffic and are trying to keep it on point.
2. Use the Search Engine of the ZetaTalk WebSite to check whether your question has already been addressed.

 

 

Note the ZetaTalk-section that applies and spend a few minutes there.

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• If wanting to contact the visitors, The Call has instructions.

• If trying to discern if you are a contactee, Visitations is very helpful.

• If pondering incarnations and what happens after death, the Density section has your answers.

• The rules that constrain the visitors, including rescue and healings, are in the Rules section.

• Climate change and life after the pole shift are detailed in the Aftertime and Pole Shift sections.

• Whether the visitors are here to rescue humanity during the coming pole shift is in the Transformation section, including the perpetual battery to be offered to highly Service-to-Other survivors.

 

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Zeta Rules that Apply

1. No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.
2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.
3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.
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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek.

To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Alison]

Hi Nancy and the Zetas,

There is what is being billed as a "giant" conference to be held in Montreal about changes in the Arctic which is due to commence next week. The article says that 2,000 scientists are expected to attend. It sounds like the situation in the Arctic is continuing to deteriorate into an even greater crisis with changes that are being called "extremely dramatic." I mainly wanted to bring this conference to your attention and to see what you might have to say about it. It is likely that this conference is being held in part so that scientists can meet face to face so that they may weave their next cover-up story about what they want the populace to believe. Your comments are appreciated.

Giant Conference to Discuss Dramatic Arctic Changes

[Stra]

Guido, I found this Zetatalk from July 2010 that might pertain to your questions:

 

Excerpt:

 

For the European tsunami, there will be a large void, a spreading apart, not rising or falling land on either side of the fault line. When water rushes in, it will clash in the center of the rift, and rise up. Thus, undecided in what direction it wishes to go, it will be very subject to the existing Gulf Stream, which will propel the excess water pressure in that direction. The Gulf Stream does not go directly into the mouth of the Mediterranean, which in any case could absorb a tsunami impact and dispel it quickly. The Gulf Stream tends to curl in two directions: curling round in a circular motion back upon itself and heading north toward Britain. Where it curls upon itself, the bulk of the tsunami there will return to the rift again, and settle, not causing any perceptible high tides along the African coast or in the Caribbean.

 

Whole Zetatalk:

 

http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx316.htm

 

Guido Krohnke said:

Nancy,

in your latest newsletter  you write, that a Tsunami only develops, if a plate lifts, not if there develops a void:
" In both cases the buoy plunged into a void, which quickly filled with water from all directions. No tsunami resulted as is the case if a platelifts, displacing water in one direction, as was the case during the December 26, 2004 tsunami. "

But, didn't you also wrote, that the Pacific Plate compresses and therefore the Atlantic expands? If the Atlantic expands, then how could the pending European Tsunami occur as event 10 of 7 of 10, if tsunamis develop only by plate lifting?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. My first thought, a rising sea level due to melting (and the whole Pole Shift rising sea levels thing) will flood IMMENSE portions of northern Canada. That's one of the places, like the Mississippi Valley, the Amazon, Siberia that will lose immense land mass when the rising sea levels start. Perhaps they are actually formulating solutions and discussing THIS problem under the guise of .. Global Warming.

Alison said:

Hi Nancy and the Zetas,

There is what is being billed as a "giant" conference to be held in Montreal about changes in the Arctic which is due to commence next week. The article says that 2,000 scientists are expected to attend. It sounds like the situation in the Arctic is continuing to deteriorate into an even greater crisis with changes that are being called "extremely dramatic." I mainly wanted to bring this conference to your attention and to see what you might have to say about it. It is likely that this conference is being held in part so that scientists can meet face to face so that they may weave their next cover-up story about what they want the populace to believe. Your comments are appreciated.

Giant Conference to Discuss Dramatic Arctic Changes

[Nancy Lieder]

Thank you Stra. You answer not only "pertains" to Guido's question, it answers it. There is a difference in SCALE, with the a huge rip forming in the Atlantic as a result of the New Madrid adjustment. The rip starts at the Aores and moves north, as does the resulting tsunami propelled by the existing Gulf Stream flow. Compare that to the slight rips between the Sunda and Pacific plates and the plate holding Australia, where the buoys shows a sudden void. Question declined.

Stra said:

Guido, I found this Zetatalk from July 2010 that might pertain to your questions:

 

Excerpt:

 

For the European tsunami, there will be a large void, a spreading apart, not rising or falling land on either side of the fault line. When water rushes in, it will clash in the center of the rift, and rise up. Thus, undecided in what direction it wishes to go, it will be very subject to the existing Gulf Stream, which will propel the excess water pressure in that direction. The Gulf Stream does not go directly into the mouth of the Mediterranean, which in any case could absorb a tsunami impact and dispel it quickly. The Gulf Stream tends to curl in two directions: curling round in a circular motion back upon itself and heading north toward Britain. Where it curls upon itself, the bulk of the tsunami there will return to the rift again, and settle, not causing any perceptible high tides along the African coast or in the Caribbean.

 

Whole Zetatalk:

 

http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx316.htm

 

[Nancy Lieder]

This is a personal question Guido, as even you can clearly see. If you were not trying to bribe her, buy her affections, then it should not matter if she wants to see you or not. Question declined as breaking a key rule of the chat.

Guido Krohnke said:

I have a burning question: Please imagine a situation where you want to help someone, who is poor and whom you know for a few days or weeks - maybe a single mother with child but without support of the father of this child. You buy a new computer with an own printer so that she can work properly and fast and is not so dependent from others in this regard. Same principle is valid for other presents, like for instance you get a bike for the mother and one for her child so that they can go to kindergarten. ...but then the mother finds out, you believe in ZetaTalk and completely stops contact with you because she is scared. And when you hint to the many things you gave to her, she just sais "Well I thank you for all these things, but I have not asked you to give all this to me. I hope you learn a lesson from this, because it is bad manner to give so much to someone who you don't really know!"


I see 2 realistic solution:
1. to help only those who are in a life threatening danger, like suffering from hunger or similar.
2. to just be happy that you helped someone, no matter if there is real appreciativeness from them to you.

Nancy or anyone wise enough, I ask for your input on this question, if it is not only my personal curiosity, but if it might be of interest to others as well.

[Scooter Guidry]

Hello to Nancy and the Zetas,

Early this morning, along the sierra nevada mountain range, a large boom was heard. It rattled windows and shook the walls, and has quickly been blamed on last night's meteor shower.  http://www.nbcbayarea.com/weather/stories/NorCal-Sonic-Boom-Possibl... 

Is there truth to this explanation? Or is there something else occurring in the sierras?

[Derrick Johnson]

Hi Scotter

Here is ZetaTalk that may be related to your question

ZetaTalk about booms can also be caused by snapping rock in compression zones

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/11de2010.htm

Booms are caused by one of several phenomena, all related to plate stress and adjustment. One result is that due to an adjustments elsewhere a ripple travels through the land, the type of ripple that many report seeing during an earthquake. Close to the epicenter of an earthquake, such ripples are waves of land (above or below the waves). The troughs are deep, the crests high, and land is seen rumpling up many feet into the air and traveling during earthquakes, a horrifying view. The farther from the epicenter the more spread out the waves, so the crests and troughs are slight and the waves have a long distance from each other. This causes one type of boom, where a dropping or heaving ground causes the air above to clap as it rushes to fill a void. Clapping air is of course what causes thunder claps, but there the void is caused by superheated air from a lightning flash.

Another result of adjustments elsewhere causing a boom is in the stretch zone. Land sinks because the rock supports underneath have pulled apart, and boom, the air claps. This can be land pulling apart under water too, causing the same phenomena of clapping air in the air over the water. The boom is occurring over where the land has dropped, which might relate to your safety nearby. If you are in the stretch zone, such stretch zone results as sinkholes or dropping bridges that pulled out of their moorings or meandering rivers choosing a new and lower path through the land nearby can occur. Yet another cause of booms is snapping rock. If the rock is heaving, trying to lift one section of a strata so that is has little support beneath it, then this rock strata can snap. This can also occur where compression or mountain building is occurring. Just look at that jutting rock. Something caused it to snap and jut!

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta357.htm

Here again the New Madrid and associated fault lines are at play. As with the Seattle drums, the booms heard elsewhere around the world, no seismographic registration occurs because this is rock adjusting without a jolt. Pulling apart, in the case of Ohio, as we have endlessly explained about the stretch zone behavior. A snapping rock in a compression zone makes the rock on both sides of the snap jump into the air, thus causing clapping in the air when air rushes back. The snap itself is not considered more than a minor quake, on the seismographs, as this is primarily an atmospheric boom.

Scooter Guidry said:

Hello to Nancy and the Zetas,

Early this morning, along the sierra nevada mountain range, a large boom was heard. It rattled windows and shook the walls, and has quickly been blamed on last night's meteor shower.  http://www.nbcbayarea.com/weather/stories/NorCal-Sonic-Boom-Possibl... 

Is there truth to this explanation? Or is there something else occurring in the sierras?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. Pretty big area to be snapping rock but that could be.

Scooter Guidry said:

Hello to Nancy and the Zetas,

Early this morning, along the sierra nevada mountain range, a large boom was heard. It rattled windows and shook the walls, and has quickly been blamed on last night's meteor shower.  http://www.nbcbayarea.com/weather/stories/NorCal-Sonic-Boom-Possibl... 

Is there truth to this explanation? Or is there something else occurring in the sierras?

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined. Note the intro to this Q&A with the Zetas states that what OTHERS say will not be verified by the Zetas. Zeta Rule 2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record,

Yugesh Sekamuri said:

HI Nancy, how are you, hi to Zeta and friends

 

Can you comments on Apophis asteroid, which according to Billy Meier, is a Red Meteor, which will pass the earth on April 13, 2029 and causes continents shift, crack from North Sea to Black sea, and should reappear in 2036

 

http://theadventuresofbillymeier.com/first.html

Thank You

[astrogal50]

We have ZetaTalk; Billy Meier is only a contactee, sounds like one who embellishes and makes stuff up too.

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 ZetaTalk: Billy Meier (note:  written by July 15, 1995.  Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.)

The Meier case has both truth and fiction mixed into it. Meier was contacted by Pleiadeans, who were answering The Call in the normal manner of Pleiadeans. This was in the subconscious of Meier, who worked at recall as many do. However, he was not left with any proof of the existence of aliens, anymore than others. As we have stated, the Awakening goes apace, but is not yet at the point where proof can be left in the hands of humans. What occurred in the Meier case was a combination of the genuine desire of Meier to communicate to others his experience, and the profit and fame motive. He found others believed him, as he was sincere in his descriptions and his tales. One thing led to another, and when proof was demanded, he produced this, literally. He did this to solidify his followers, and strayed little at first from the facts. After a time, as is the case in one lie leading to another, his stories began to deviate from the truth.

As with most contactees, Billy Meier caught the gist of what he was told more than he caught the specifics. What Billy Meier reported as dates for what he termed the great Destroyer, his term for the return of the 12th Planet, has no relationship to any information he was given. He was in fact not given dates, as he asked not to know. It is no surprise then that the dates he projects for the cataclysms are well beyond his life time. This type of denial is exceedingly common.

In his attempt to bolster his own stories about his very real experiences, Billy Meier also sought corollaries from history. Not having a name for his visitors, he assigned one, and called his many visitors by a singular name - Semjase. His very real experiences thus became further blurred with past reports just as flamboyant with untruths. Humans use names to identify each other and their leaders or idols, but visitors from other worlds operating in the Service-to-Others do not use names, being in telepathic contact with one another and thus not needing such props. By giving in to his desire to have fame over fact, Billy Meier marked his tales in a manner that would eventually leave him less and less believable. Contactees are increasingly coming forward with their stories, and stories that have been augmented eventually will stand out as lacking in the ring of truth.  http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a31.htm

Yugesh Sekamuri said:

HI Nancy, how are you, hi to Zeta and friends

 

Can you comments on Apophis asteroid, which according to Billy Meier, is a Red Meteor, which will pass the earth on April 13, 2029 and causes continents shift, crack from North Sea to Black sea, and should reappear in 2036

 

http://theadventuresofbillymeier.com/first.html

Thank You

[astrogal50]

Your question is about Billy Meier and it did violate the special ZT Chat Rules.  Please do not pretend otherwise.

Wikipedia participates in the cover up of Planet X and the pending pole shift, hardly a bastion of truth there either!  Please see a blog on this unique ning for evidence of Wikipedia's activities: Wikipedia's Shame! (Disinformation on ZetaTalk and Nancy Lieder) Can't CHANGE This!

Yugesh Sekamuri said:

Sorry Nancy, I meant no disrespect,

 

My question was not on Billy Meier, but on Meteor. Because Wikipedia mentions the same date and passage too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis

Thank You

Nancy Lieder said:

Declined. Note the intro to this Q&A with the Zetas states that what OTHERS say will not be verified by the Zetas. Zeta Rule 2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record,

Yugesh Sekamuri said:

HI Nancy, how are you, hi to Zeta and friends

 

Can you comments on Apophis asteroid, which according to Billy Meier, is a Red Meteor, which will pass the earth on April 13, 2029 and causes continents shift, crack from North Sea to Black sea, and should reappear in 2036

 

http://theadventuresofbillymeier.com/first.html

Thank You

[bill]

Nancy,

Underground water in eastern Shasta County mysteriously disappears. I understand that the N American continent is being pulled into a bow.  Is this an early sign of tearing rocks and hence ground water follows new paths through the fractures into the underground lava tubes?

http://www.redding.com/news/2012/apr/15/underground-water-mysteriou...