ZetaTalk Chat for April 14, 2012

[Nancy Lieder]

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Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek.

To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

[Stanislav]

Hi Nancy and Zetas

Nancy Lieder - "@George I'm not sure why some have so much success (as by the many posts) and others are still struggling"

For some reason I think that the reason for which not everyone can take the Planet X is not in their mistakes and in something else. It may be that the Council of Worlds does not want to grow dramatically in the excitement of the population?

Or the reason for all the same to the mistakes?

Thanks

[Nancy Lieder]

Declined as it is clear this is intended to be a revolution, given the number of people having success. It is something George is doing. I suspect he is using too MUCH filter as I know with welders lens, if too dark you barely get the Sun and filter out ALL of the PX complex. There is a certian lens number to use. Alberto mentioned using the "film" from a floppy disc, not the entire insert, so I am thinking this is the key. Or perhaps the inserts differ, during manufacture.

Red filter at momenti is very good and important to operate with brighteness and contrast, but as I told the best filter is to use il sottile materiale brown of the floppy disc. This is the most sure for our sight and our camera smartphone. I use the thin film that you can cut from an old floppy disc, it seem to be film of cobalt droped iron oxide. Easy to do, by closing the lens of the camera and good view. But I use also classic Mylar and orange color. Ciao Alberto

Stanislav said:

Hi Nancy and Zetas

Nancy Lieder - "@George I'm not sure why some have so much success (as by the many posts) and others are still struggling"

For some reason I think that the reason for which not everyone can take the Planet X is not in their mistakes and in something else. It may be that the Council of Worlds does not want to grow dramatically in the excitement of the population?

Or the reason for all the same to the mistakes?

Thanks

[Loran]

The boxes reported on the beach on the west coast of Oregon US and previously in Sri Lanka intrigued me. The implications at the time were that the boxes were placed there by UFOs. I can find no new news about these boxes on the net. Cover-up?  Below are links to the news articles and ZT on the topic at the time as a memory refresher and for those new to the topic.

http://www.huliq.com/10282/ufo-sightings-reveal-more-strange-metal-...

http://www.huliq.com/10282/ufo-sightings-stonefield-beach-reveal-st...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa-vnKL7ENA&feature=player_embedded

The only mainstream article I could find is this one which debunks the alien source of the boxes. This publication did not carry the original story.

http://www.southlincolncountynews.com/v2_news_articles.php?heading=...

It shows a picture of a box which looks similar to the others but is not sitting in the sand. It is sitting on top of other beach float sum. Obviously this box is not unmovable as it must have been moved. I live on the south east coast of Florida. Large objects that wash up on the shore are partially buried in the sand by wave action. This box is not partially buried. Also as a note, an object partially buried in wet sand is very hard to move because there is a suction formed by the sand which tends to hold the object in place. There is no obvious hole near the box that would suggest that someone flipped the box over before the picture was taken. My conclusion, it is highly probable that this box did notwash up, but was dumped on the beach. Also, the box in the article shows no evidence of being in the water for a long period of time like you would expect a dock float to have, no barnacles, oyster growth, sea weed growth etc. on the parts of the dock box that would have been submerged.

ZT had the following to say about the boxes.

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/mystery-boxes-on-fault-lin...

And here

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/7-of-10-status-as-of-febru...

SOZT
These sealed metal boxes are indeed alien, placed along significant coastlines to abort sudden and jolting plate movements. The number of boxes discovered by mankind, uncloaked and visible, are a miniscule number compared to the total in use, which range in the thousands. Most are under water. They are supposed to be cloaked, so that humans can look right at them and not SEE them, but mistakes are made in the rush to place the boxes, on occasion, so some are left visible. Have governments removed them and tried to crack them open? Yes, but the boxes disappear from storage, without a trace.

Why is the impact of plate movements being restrained, at present, when the Council of Worlds has ruled that the Pole Shift is a natural event not to be averted? Is has scarcely passed notice that our original statements about the 7 of 10 scenarios, whereby we anticipated a rapid start at the end of 2010, did not unfold. The 7 of 10 pace has been slow, not rapid. The Council of Worlds wants the public to be aware of what is happening, what is pending, so that spiritual decisions can be made, the population having opportunity to evaluate the situation properly. The cover-up has prevented that school house lesson from occurring.

Thus, temporarily, the pace of change here on Earth will be slowed, but not averted. Nor is the ultimate result or timeframe being changed. The battleground is on the cover-up, as the recent decision to allow more visibility of the Planet X complex has shown. For those who wonder who the boxes work, why the hum or aurora type glow they occasionally emit, we have no comment. You would not understand the mechanics, nor be able to replicate the boxes, and in any case if the secrets were understood those in the Service-to-Self in your establishment would use this information to control and harm the common man. The boxes will remain a mystery, in this regard.
EOZT

It occurred to me that the ZT claims might be verifiable. So, I downloaded the data from Northern California Earthquake Data Center, UC Berkeley

http://www.ncedc.org/anss/catalog-search.html

for the time period from 12/1/2011 to 4/5/2012. I grouped the data into weeks. I counted the number of quakes in each week, then summed the magnitude of all the quakes in each week, calculated the average magnitude for each week, and found the largest magnitude for each week. Graphs of the results of my analysis are below. Note the boxes first appeared on the beaches Feb 8^th2012.

 

 

I have been watching IRIS daily for some time and noticed there have been several days lately where there were no new quakes in the morning which is highly unusual based on my observations of the last couple of years.

 

 

Based on this observation, I summed the magnitude of each quake >4 for each week. Analysis of the data is below.

 

 

You can draw your own conclusions, but it looks to me like Zetas were telling the truth! The graph shows the quake activity building and then suddenly falling off at the exact time of the box appearance. In this last graph it is really clear that large quakes were building in frequency and magnitude prior to the box placement and since have been decreasing in frequency and magnitude.

It is also worth noting that per the Zetas the end of April is the end of a magnetic trimester.

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/magnetic-trimesters

My question for the Zetas, Does the delaying of the 7 of 10 events but not the end date make the final earth trauma that much worse (more events in less time stacked up towards the end)? I am assuming the end state as described by the Zetas has not changed, so during later weeks more has to happen?

 

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted. Looks pretty hacked up! Bad edit for one thing.

Dierk Wallrabenstein said:

What is up with the SOHO Images (http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/realtime-update.html overview)?. There are no regular updates anymore available since yesterday, 2012/04/06 (http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/please-place-your-soho-amp). Would you be so kind to ask the Zetas what is going on?

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted to address the cover-up's response to the boxes. Good job documenting that quakes have reduced both in frequency and magnitude!

Loran Pleasanton said:

The boxes reported on the beach on the west coast of Oregon US and previously in Sri Lanka intrigued me. The implications at the time were that the boxes were placed there by UFOs. I can find no new news about these boxes on the net. Cover-up?  Below are links to the news articles and ZT on the topic at the time as a memory refresher and for those new to the topic.

[174cgczqlkqnf]

Aloha Nancy and Zetas,

I keep seeing mention of CHEMTRAILS popping up on zeta talk.  From what I have found from searching this Ning, it seems that they are a "non-event".  I am curious why they keep coming up and why people seem so fixated on them.  Are they something we should take seriously?  Sorry if this has already been addressed.

Thank you

[Stra]

@Aaron:

Here's the ZetaTalk newsletter from April 19, 2009 regarding chemtrails:

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue129.htm

Inside you can find at least four ZetaTalks about the issue.

 

More ZetaTalk:

Written December 11, 2010

One would assume that the Puppermaster does indeed plan to support higher visibility of ZT and Nancy, per the Zetas and the current media posturing around Pole Shift related issues. Once things start to break open with 7 of 10 Quakes, PX visibility and validation of ZT predictions, will there still be a push for things like Chemtrails, PX topic blacklisting in media, "intimidation" of those in the know, etc.. by the "middle men" as the Zetas call them, or will they at that time resign themselves to "hide in their bunkers then"? How long will we have to fight against their disinfo and intimidation after things really start to break open? Agree that everybody or at least as many as possible should have knowledge and be able to make their own choices.

Will the cover-up intensify or weaken after the 7 of 10 and with more media exposure for the ZetaTalk message? It will do both. We have stated that those in charge of the cover-up are gripped in fear at the thought of the public becoming aware of their role, and coming after them for it. NASA's explanations for what is seen in the skies will become more inventive. They will get increased media coverage too. Their fear will be palpable, very evident, and their message shrill. Geologists will be mustered forth to talk about climate change and geological change over the eons, with the phrase "millions of years ago" thrown around frequently. When Planet X and its components becomes more visible in the skies, the reaction of those fogging up the skies with chemtrails is likely to be more fogging, at least at first. At the same time, those among the elite fearing panic in the public, or a backlash over the cover-up, will be increasingly heading for their bunkers. Thus the cover-up will lose strength, and eventually chemtrails will no longer be funded and NASA will prefer to close shop rather than defend its stance.

 

Here's a more recent ZetaTalk about chemtrails, Feb 12, 2011:

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/12fe2011.htm

One of the major so-called conspiracy theories on the Internet has been chemtrails - who, what, and why. Chemtrails are well documented by photos and chemical analysis of the air. All of this is discounted by those involved as merely the contrails from airplanes and the byproduct of air traffic. Chemtrails have eased and then resumed recently. By late August, 2010 it seemed the chemtrail operation had closed shop, due to an attempt to infiltrate the operation and expose it. Frightened, the wealthy elite running the operation temporarily closed shop while they disposed of the suspected saboteurs, but resumed a month later, by late September, 2010. If the group fogging up the skies is so intent upon continuing their operation that they would assassinate any insiders suspected of leaking evidence to the public, then why would they allow an article on CBS to be published?

We are talking about the elite here, those wealthy enough to fund a huge operation running 24*7, virtually worldwide. Would this organization not have enough clout to silence a major news article focusing attention on the evidence that proves that those making claims were correct? What's going on here? The perpetrators are trying to get ahead of any leaks that may be pending. The message is: "we have nothing to hide". The article is designed to invite discussion and debate, in an online forum where agents of disinformation are just lurking and waiting. Pointed suppression of discussion and information flow invites the suspicion that a cover-up is in process. By being open, the perpetrators hope to clothe themselves in the presumption of innocence.

Aaron S said:

Aloha Nancy and Zetas,

I keep seeing mention of CHEMTRAILS popping up on zeta talk.  From what I have found from searching this Ning, it seems that they are a "non-event".  I am curious why they keep coming up and why people seem so fixated on them.  Are they something we should take seriously?  Sorry if this has already been addressed.

Thank you

[Howard]

On March 21, shortly after Clintonville started experiencing loud booms, a mysterious white substance was discovered just to the east in the Fond du Lac River, Wisconsin.  On March 31, a similar substance was discovered in Sheldon Creek in Burlington, Vermont.  Then today on April 7, a mysterious "white, milky" fluid was spotted bubbling up in Coal Harbour in Vancouver BC.
The Fond du Lac substance was thought to be some form of "cutting oil" that somehow entered the storm sewer.  The spill in Sheldon Creek was reported to be the result of leak from a company that produces water treatment chemicals.  The Coal Harbour substance is thought to be effluent emanating from an underwater storm water outflow pipe.

Will the Zetas confirm if these incidences are related to Earth Changes, (e.g., ruptured storm water lines from shifting Earth) and elaborate why all these substances appear to be similar?

Thank you.

[bill]

Nancy,

On February 27, 2012 a massive crop formation appeared in Tula, Hidalgo, Mexico which was nearly identical to a formation which appeared in Russia on May 22, 2011.
From the ground the formations seem to be a mess of strange, asymmetrical shapes. But when viewed from above, the neat rows of flattened crop show just how ordered the formations are. There must be some meaning to the shapes that appear along these lines.

When the russian crop circle first appeared back in May 2011, your comment to the question was: "Declined as this is windstorm damage, not a CC. CC's have grain that weaves and goes in dual directions at once, etc, bends at the nodes to lay down, stuff like that. This is just blown over, all in one direction. Microbursts of wind"

Now, what is the chance of a similar crop circle or patterns caused by a similar storm?  Based on the comments from the local, there was no signs of storm the night before this crop circle appeared but there were strange lights and objects appeared with strange sounds around there?  The local mexicans are puzzled.  Is there anything that we could add to this or this is simply another patterns caused by storm?

Same Crop Circle That Appeared in Russia Appears in Mexico Feb 27, 2012

Strange crop circles near Krasnodar, Russia

[Derrick Johnson]

Hi Bill

ZetaTalk about real crop circle language and the symbolism involved  

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta112.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a113.htm

bill said:

Nancy,

On February 27, 2012 a massive crop formation appeared in Tula, Hidalgo, Mexico which was nearly identical to a formation which appeared in Russia on May 22, 2011.
From the ground the formations seem to be a mess of strange, asymmetrical shapes. But when viewed from above, the neat rows of flattened crop show just how ordered the formations are. There must be some meaning to the shapes that appear along these lines.

When the russian crop circle first appeared back in May 2011, your comment to the question was: "Declined as this is windstorm damage, not a CC. CC's have grain that weaves and goes in dual directions at once, etc, bends at the nodes to lay down, stuff like that. This is just blown over, all in one direction. Microbursts of wind"

Now, what is the chance of a similar crop circle or patterns caused by a similar storm?  Based on the comments from the local, there was no signs of storm the night before this crop circle appeared but there were strange lights and objects appeared with strange sounds around there?  The local mexicans are puzzled.  Is there anything that we could add to this or this is simply another patterns caused by storm?

[Nancy Lieder]

Added to you Q

Dierk Wallrabenstein said:

In addition to my last question about the SOHO pictures: could you also ask the Zetas if the "complex" seen on the image below is also the Planet X complex? ( http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/please-place-your-soho-amp... ), SOHO EIT 171 - 2012-04-07, 13-00

[Nancy Lieder]

Accepted and I imagine the reason for alarm is that it is an OBVIOUS cover-up maneuver.

Aaron S said:

Aloha Nancy and Zetas,

I keep seeing mention of CHEMTRAILS popping up on zeta talk.  From what I have found from searching this Ning, it seems that they are a "non-event".  I am curious why they keep coming up and why people seem so fixated on them.  Are they something we should take seriously?  Sorry if this has already been addressed.

Thank you