12’ diameter, insulated, grancrete, geodesic dome, storm shelter
This discussion was originally posted by Loren Dean, but was found to be against the ning rules on several counts so the original was removed and is reposted here sans the objectionable material. The objectionable material was the inference that suicide is preferable to survival and that the winds during the pole shift will be 500 mph (they will be no stronger than hurricanes today) and that Nibiru will come back for repeated passes, etc. While ostensibly advocating survival, with practical advice, the post was laced with an invalid description of the pole shift and advice to just give up and take the suicide route. Loren has been advised NOT to post, and in fact asked to leave in the past by Gerard. Stronger steps may be necessary in the future.
# Posted by loren dean on April 20, 2010 at 6:30am in Uncategorized (Change)
This shelter plan is an inexpensive, handmade, rapid deployment, somewhat portable, insulated, short duration shelter for very intense weather, firestorms, and earthquakes. I am writing this for younger people who are stuck in the cities without a lot of money. Where will these folks go if the shit hits the fan? This plan puts everything you need on a small trailer and allows you to sneak off for quite a few months for under $1,500. Good insurance and peace of mind. And if nothing happens, you can sell the stuff you don’t use so you lose very little.
Now in the advent of an EMP blast, cars with chips won’t work, so you either need extra chips that have been stored in a lead box, or you will need an older car with no chips, so be advised about this. Also gas stations will not be able to pump gas so you may need extra gas or hand pumps to steal gas along the way. People in California may need to travel east of the Rockies, by most end time scenarios, so be aware and have back-ups for your back ups. Think of this as a camping exhibition and try to have fun with it. Once you have a good plan, a lot of stress is lifted off your shoulders.
First of all: Know what you are preparing for, like: initial 9+M earthquakes, horrific flooding, 200+ mph winds, sinking land masses, flaming methane clouds, incredible hail storms, super soldiers on the prowl, starvation, dehydration, hypothermia, a thick layer of volcanic ash if you are near a volcano, temperature extremes, long days and nights, ear and soul shattering noises, UFO visitations, a Nibiru fly by, wild animals roaming, starving gangs with weapons, poisoned water from ash, toxic air from ash, the prying eyes of police, rangers and military. You have to try to be on the safe side and get a clear vision for your own area.
Location / Location / Location! In the advent of a pole shit, or Nibiru visitation, or even war, people may have to get out of cities quickly and head for the hills. This may mean 200 feet asl, if you’re 100 miles inland, and maybe above 1000 ft if you’re coastal in a tsunami area. Try to stay up-wind from volcanoes, away from giant trees that could fall on you, sand that could blow away from under you, do not go near fault lines that could open up or any expected epicenter and not in a flood plain or any kind of river valley, gorge or depression that could collect water. Very heavy rains are expected in some scenarios. Do not build near people or military installations, or potential human traffic. Do not build over buried wires or transformers. Consult future maps, pole shift maps, and elevation maps before any location is chosen. Make sure your own heart feels good about your choice, use your intuition, if you have any. Consider hiding in plain sight if you can’t get away, etc.
The plan offered here is basically to pick a good spot ahead of time, in a safe, remote area and put down 3 pylons for a foundation for a small grancrete dome. Grancrete is a superior shell to concrete or ferro cement. This dome is prefab, fits on a trailer, and can go up quickly after the shit hits the fan, so you don’t have to buy any land. In this plan you are just a temporary squatter, in a remote area, that no one will even see, hopefully. It may be a good idea to prepare your spot by burying water jugs, seeds, tools, bicycles, guns, and food, etc. so you will have these for aftermath, if you need them.
Once you locate a good location:
1. Stick a stake in the ground with a 6’ string on it and make a 12 diameter circle. Mark out 3 or 4 equidistant 1’ circles and dig 4 ‘ deep holes with a post hole digger that are wider on the bottom than the
top. Fill these with regular post concrete and put ½” thick, 10” long eye bolts with large washers and nuts sticking up at ground level so you can later hook the dome onto these anchors to resist 200 mph
winds. Also dig any storage pits, and one very deep septic pit and leave the dirt in a pile next to this hole for later refilling.
2. A variation on this step is to buy large size “ground anchors” that can be screwed into the ground and then anchored to. Farm supplies have large ones about 3’ long and 8” wide on the blades and a large steel eye on top. Excellent for softer dirt, but rocks may stop them, so do this ahead of time! Ground anchors are about 10 bucks each and you should get 3-4 of them. Get them in and cover with dirt until needed.
3. Before TSHTF, Cut up some 8 x 4’, 2” thick, foam sheets into proper size pentagons or triangles that will fit together to make a good geodesic dome. Examples are here:
http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/mathematics/dome/dome.html.
Use foam sheets that have one side aluminum to reflect back your body heat and light. You will need 8-10 sheets depending on your design . Small left over pieces can be glued into bigger triangles or
pentagons. The foam will cost around 250 dollars. Make sure you can stand up in your dome.
4. Before you build the dome. You can place things inside the circle and build around them if you don’t want to move them in later though the entrance tunnel or small door. Like a lawn chair or table, or flooring, etc. A floor could be made from padded carpet for example.
5. Put the geodesic panels together in the shape of a dome with rods or 4” galvanized nails, or what ever works. You may need some flexible lattice strips or pvc pipes to support the insulation pieces until they are foam sprayed into place. Or get some friends to help. Leave at least a ¼” crack between the pieces of foam to be filled with a sprayed foam from hand size cans of spray foam, later. Spray foam will cost 50 bucks for a case. You will need some kind of supports to hold pieces in place until you can spray the cracks, then the dome will firm up a little more. Make sure these pieces are cut, numbered, and ready to go at a moments notice, don’t try to cut these outside in the wind the last minute as this will take some real planning.
6. Another way to go on the insulated dome part is to have a polyurethane foam sprayer, spray the whole dome into shape at one time with an expensive spraying machine. Then you could cut it in half and throw it on a truck and pin it together on site. There are many variation on this theme here, but you must have insulation. Use your ingenuity. Rigid foam is the only type of insulation that will work in the high humidity environment inside a tiny dome.
7. Once set up on location, place one-way door viewers every 2 feet around the dome foam so you can see out in all directions, but no one can see in. This shelter has no doors or windows and you will not want these if the winds get crazy anyway. And no door is better protection from others, and cheaper and easier. My idea was to dig a rabbit hole entrance and refill it from the inside. Otherwise, you can make one pentagon or triangle into a removable panel, if you want. You don’t need hinges or anything, just a larger
grancrete shell for that panel, with a couple bolts through the panel to fasten it to a 4x4” “latch”, with butterfly nuts, inside the dome. But this weakens the dome and also the seal of the dome. So, you would need a rubber gasket, to remake the lost seal. I leave it with you. If you go for a door, make it before TSHTF
8. Place two rubber hoses at least ¾” diameter where you can blow on one of them, these are breathing tubes. Get clamps or caps for their ends, and hepa vaccum bags for filters to remove any ash. Do not breath in through these tubes blindly, instead, blow out through one and thereby suck new air in through the other, which is filtered. Ash is glass that wrecks your lungs. You can use these bags for breathing if you
go outside, as well. Rig up a computer fan to a lithium or deep cell battery if two people are inside the dome. Get a carbon dioxide meter for safety, if you can.
9. Attach 3 or more fasteners, i.e. some kind of screw clamps to the foam and the grancrete shell of the dome such that they will hook into the grancrete and lock down on to the three buried pylons. Make double damn sure they are strong and will clamp properly, once you are inside. 200 mile per hour winds can knock trees over, so do not neglect foundation! Always over do it. You can put the whole dome underground if you feel you need to, but this is a lot of extra work. Build dome into a slight hillside and build an earth berm outside if necessary to deflect winds.
10. When the insulation part of the dome feels solid enough to take some weight, start mixing up the grancrete in one of those rolling, plastic cement mixers you can buy at hardware suppliers. Then just rub
grancrete on with your gloves. Rub on a thin layer first that doesn’t collapse the dome, and once that dries rub on another layer until you get to about about 1.5 “ thick of it. Grancrete dries very fast. You will need an extension trowel or paddle to smooth the top of the dome! Then put on more if you can. Grancrete is 15,000 psi! That’s stronger than ice! And it sets up fast and is more water proof and flexible than concrete
which is why we are spending more money for it here. Ferro cement is good stuff, but harder to put on over layers of chicken wire, and still you don’t have the crucial insulation. Grancrete will not crack like concrete and fall down on you, it does not need a wire mesh, and it is not so very heavy and thick. Get extra grancrete as you can make anything out of this stuff like tubs, chairs, sledge hammers, you name it, so get plenty of bags shipped right to your door, you can always sell it as it has a hundred uses. You could put a tub in the floor of your dome for storage, or for water, then place a lid over it.
You will need every inch of your dome space for water, food, batteries, cooking and heating gas, a boating toilet, chair, table, light, bed, shortwave radio, reading materials, heating pads, first aid kit, cloths. Arctic suit, sleeping bags, and also so many cubic feet just for breathing air. Get a survival list on line. Keep some stuff outside the dome. If you dig and stand in a hole you can stretch your arms above your head to do your yoga or falun dafa. The surface area of a dome is half that of a sphere. The area for a sphere by wikipedia formula is: Area = 4 times (pi times (the radius x the radius). The radius squared is 36, pi is 3.14, and a
dome is half the size of a sphere so we will use 2 instead of 4: giving:. 2 x 3.14 x 36 = 227 square feet. Last time I looked grancrete was about $17 per 60 lb bag that would cover about 6 square feet to about 1.5 “ thick. This comes to about $720 dollars for the grancrete, plus shipping. These are very old prices
and there are other considerations, too. So check here for latest prices http://www.grancrete.net/products/
or call 919-597-2500. line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"
11. The finished dome is then entered either through a rabbit tunnel you dig or by prying up one side with a giant lever or car jack and sliding in. Take your pry bar inside with you and a shovel! Then drop the dome into position over you. Clamp it down tight and get ready to rock and roll for weeks. According to the Kolbrin Bible, there will be extremely loud noises and tremendous vibrations, gasses may be released under you in which case move the dome or air it out somehow. Major Earth quakes liquefy the ground so be thankful you are not under the ground as your escape route could be torqued, gassed or flooded. Keep a
small shovel, hammer and chisel inside to dig out with if necessary. Fires will not burn this dome, flying debris will not break it unless it is massive and really moving. Ordinary bullets will not penetrate it.
12. Heating and cooking uses up lots of air, even with sterno, If its 60 below outside F, then it will be about 20 below inside from earth and body heat. The ground is supposed to get warmer during this period and muggy and ashen in the atmosphere. You may need an arctic suit in northern climates if we have 100 hour nights or something.
13. a toilet get a small boating toilet with a supply of bags and ties. Throw the bags down the septic hole and cover with dirt.
14. Pu Keep water in jugs or a large tub, LED lights and car batteries 12v deep cell, or lithium batteries stack supplements, dried foods in sacks that will conform to the curved sides of dome. Tuck everything around you. There are good survival lists on the web.
15. Most importantly, you can build this thing after the grid goes down and others are in chaos. If you don’t ever need it, you can resell or reuse these common materials in other ways. Domes can be linked by
underground passages, you can sleep in one, keep watch in another. People can form groups. This will be a lot like camping in concrete tents, in really, really bad weather, and don’t forget to bring some good DNA along to repopulate the earth with. There are going to be some long cold nights.
16. Do not leave your delivery truck or trailer near your shelter, drive it a mile away and camo it with branches over tied down camo netting .
17. Every material of this plan should be purchased ahead of time and every step should be run through at least a couple of times, and remember, back-up your back-ups.
Please mention anything I forgot below along with any interesting variations, food preps, and any ideas for magnetic generators, etc. etc. I just didn’t see very many real shelter preparation plans out there, so I offer this starting point. I believe a good shelter can be purchased for under 1,500 dollars not including the food, trailer, clothing, tools, etc.
–Peace
# Posted by loren dean on April 20, 2010 at 6:30am in Uncategorized (Change)
This shelter plan is an inexpensive, handmade, rapid deployment, somewhat portable, insulated, short duration shelter for very intense weather, firestorms, and earthquakes. I am writing this for younger people who are stuck in the cities without a lot of money. Where will these folks go if the shit hits the fan? This plan puts everything you need on a small trailer and allows you to sneak off for quite a few months for under $1,500. Good insurance and peace of mind. And if nothing happens, you can sell the stuff you don’t use so you lose very little.
Now in the advent of an EMP blast, cars with chips won’t work, so you either need extra chips that have been stored in a lead box, or you will need an older car with no chips, so be advised about this. Also gas stations will not be able to pump gas so you may need extra gas or hand pumps to steal gas along the way. People in California may need to travel east of the Rockies, by most end time scenarios, so be aware and have back-ups for your back ups. Think of this as a camping exhibition and try to have fun with it. Once you have a good plan, a lot of stress is lifted off your shoulders.
First of all: Know what you are preparing for, like: initial 9+M earthquakes, horrific flooding, 200+ mph winds, sinking land masses, flaming methane clouds, incredible hail storms, super soldiers on the prowl, starvation, dehydration, hypothermia, a thick layer of volcanic ash if you are near a volcano, temperature extremes, long days and nights, ear and soul shattering noises, UFO visitations, a Nibiru fly by, wild animals roaming, starving gangs with weapons, poisoned water from ash, toxic air from ash, the prying eyes of police, rangers and military. You have to try to be on the safe side and get a clear vision for your own area.
Location / Location / Location! In the advent of a pole shit, or Nibiru visitation, or even war, people may have to get out of cities quickly and head for the hills. This may mean 200 feet asl, if you’re 100 miles inland, and maybe above 1000 ft if you’re coastal in a tsunami area. Try to stay up-wind from volcanoes, away from giant trees that could fall on you, sand that could blow away from under you, do not go near fault lines that could open up or any expected epicenter and not in a flood plain or any kind of river valley, gorge or depression that could collect water. Very heavy rains are expected in some scenarios. Do not build near people or military installations, or potential human traffic. Do not build over buried wires or transformers. Consult future maps, pole shift maps, and elevation maps before any location is chosen. Make sure your own heart feels good about your choice, use your intuition, if you have any. Consider hiding in plain sight if you can’t get away, etc.
The plan offered here is basically to pick a good spot ahead of time, in a safe, remote area and put down 3 pylons for a foundation for a small grancrete dome. Grancrete is a superior shell to concrete or ferro cement. This dome is prefab, fits on a trailer, and can go up quickly after the shit hits the fan, so you don’t have to buy any land. In this plan you are just a temporary squatter, in a remote area, that no one will even see, hopefully. It may be a good idea to prepare your spot by burying water jugs, seeds, tools, bicycles, guns, and food, etc. so you will have these for aftermath, if you need them.
Once you locate a good location:
1. Stick a stake in the ground with a 6’ string on it and make a 12 diameter circle. Mark out 3 or 4 equidistant 1’ circles and dig 4 ‘ deep holes with a post hole digger that are wider on the bottom than the
top. Fill these with regular post concrete and put ½” thick, 10” long eye bolts with large washers and nuts sticking up at ground level so you can later hook the dome onto these anchors to resist 200 mph
winds. Also dig any storage pits, and one very deep septic pit and leave the dirt in a pile next to this hole for later refilling.
2. A variation on this step is to buy large size “ground anchors” that can be screwed into the ground and then anchored to. Farm supplies have large ones about 3’ long and 8” wide on the blades and a large steel eye on top. Excellent for softer dirt, but rocks may stop them, so do this ahead of time! Ground anchors are about 10 bucks each and you should get 3-4 of them. Get them in and cover with dirt until needed.
3. Before TSHTF, Cut up some 8 x 4’, 2” thick, foam sheets into proper size pentagons or triangles that will fit together to make a good geodesic dome. Examples are here:
http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/mathematics/dome/dome.html.
Use foam sheets that have one side aluminum to reflect back your body heat and light. You will need 8-10 sheets depending on your design . Small left over pieces can be glued into bigger triangles or
pentagons. The foam will cost around 250 dollars. Make sure you can stand up in your dome.
4. Before you build the dome. You can place things inside the circle and build around them if you don’t want to move them in later though the entrance tunnel or small door. Like a lawn chair or table, or flooring, etc. A floor could be made from padded carpet for example.
5. Put the geodesic panels together in the shape of a dome with rods or 4” galvanized nails, or what ever works. You may need some flexible lattice strips or pvc pipes to support the insulation pieces until they are foam sprayed into place. Or get some friends to help. Leave at least a ¼” crack between the pieces of foam to be filled with a sprayed foam from hand size cans of spray foam, later. Spray foam will cost 50 bucks for a case. You will need some kind of supports to hold pieces in place until you can spray the cracks, then the dome will firm up a little more. Make sure these pieces are cut, numbered, and ready to go at a moments notice, don’t try to cut these outside in the wind the last minute as this will take some real planning.
6. Another way to go on the insulated dome part is to have a polyurethane foam sprayer, spray the whole dome into shape at one time with an expensive spraying machine. Then you could cut it in half and throw it on a truck and pin it together on site. There are many variation on this theme here, but you must have insulation. Use your ingenuity. Rigid foam is the only type of insulation that will work in the high humidity environment inside a tiny dome.
7. Once set up on location, place one-way door viewers every 2 feet around the dome foam so you can see out in all directions, but no one can see in. This shelter has no doors or windows and you will not want these if the winds get crazy anyway. And no door is better protection from others, and cheaper and easier. My idea was to dig a rabbit hole entrance and refill it from the inside. Otherwise, you can make one pentagon or triangle into a removable panel, if you want. You don’t need hinges or anything, just a larger
grancrete shell for that panel, with a couple bolts through the panel to fasten it to a 4x4” “latch”, with butterfly nuts, inside the dome. But this weakens the dome and also the seal of the dome. So, you would need a rubber gasket, to remake the lost seal. I leave it with you. If you go for a door, make it before TSHTF
8. Place two rubber hoses at least ¾” diameter where you can blow on one of them, these are breathing tubes. Get clamps or caps for their ends, and hepa vaccum bags for filters to remove any ash. Do not breath in through these tubes blindly, instead, blow out through one and thereby suck new air in through the other, which is filtered. Ash is glass that wrecks your lungs. You can use these bags for breathing if you
go outside, as well. Rig up a computer fan to a lithium or deep cell battery if two people are inside the dome. Get a carbon dioxide meter for safety, if you can.
9. Attach 3 or more fasteners, i.e. some kind of screw clamps to the foam and the grancrete shell of the dome such that they will hook into the grancrete and lock down on to the three buried pylons. Make double damn sure they are strong and will clamp properly, once you are inside. 200 mile per hour winds can knock trees over, so do not neglect foundation! Always over do it. You can put the whole dome underground if you feel you need to, but this is a lot of extra work. Build dome into a slight hillside and build an earth berm outside if necessary to deflect winds.
10. When the insulation part of the dome feels solid enough to take some weight, start mixing up the grancrete in one of those rolling, plastic cement mixers you can buy at hardware suppliers. Then just rub
grancrete on with your gloves. Rub on a thin layer first that doesn’t collapse the dome, and once that dries rub on another layer until you get to about about 1.5 “ thick of it. Grancrete dries very fast. You will need an extension trowel or paddle to smooth the top of the dome! Then put on more if you can. Grancrete is 15,000 psi! That’s stronger than ice! And it sets up fast and is more water proof and flexible than concrete
which is why we are spending more money for it here. Ferro cement is good stuff, but harder to put on over layers of chicken wire, and still you don’t have the crucial insulation. Grancrete will not crack like concrete and fall down on you, it does not need a wire mesh, and it is not so very heavy and thick. Get extra grancrete as you can make anything out of this stuff like tubs, chairs, sledge hammers, you name it, so get plenty of bags shipped right to your door, you can always sell it as it has a hundred uses. You could put a tub in the floor of your dome for storage, or for water, then place a lid over it.
You will need every inch of your dome space for water, food, batteries, cooking and heating gas, a boating toilet, chair, table, light, bed, shortwave radio, reading materials, heating pads, first aid kit, cloths. Arctic suit, sleeping bags, and also so many cubic feet just for breathing air. Get a survival list on line. Keep some stuff outside the dome. If you dig and stand in a hole you can stretch your arms above your head to do your yoga or falun dafa. The surface area of a dome is half that of a sphere. The area for a sphere by wikipedia formula is: Area = 4 times (pi times (the radius x the radius). The radius squared is 36, pi is 3.14, and a
dome is half the size of a sphere so we will use 2 instead of 4: giving:. 2 x 3.14 x 36 = 227 square feet. Last time I looked grancrete was about $17 per 60 lb bag that would cover about 6 square feet to about 1.5 “ thick. This comes to about $720 dollars for the grancrete, plus shipping. These are very old prices
and there are other considerations, too. So check here for latest prices http://www.grancrete.net/products/
or call 919-597-2500. line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"
11. The finished dome is then entered either through a rabbit tunnel you dig or by prying up one side with a giant lever or car jack and sliding in. Take your pry bar inside with you and a shovel! Then drop the dome into position over you. Clamp it down tight and get ready to rock and roll for weeks. According to the Kolbrin Bible, there will be extremely loud noises and tremendous vibrations, gasses may be released under you in which case move the dome or air it out somehow. Major Earth quakes liquefy the ground so be thankful you are not under the ground as your escape route could be torqued, gassed or flooded. Keep a
small shovel, hammer and chisel inside to dig out with if necessary. Fires will not burn this dome, flying debris will not break it unless it is massive and really moving. Ordinary bullets will not penetrate it.
12. Heating and cooking uses up lots of air, even with sterno, If its 60 below outside F, then it will be about 20 below inside from earth and body heat. The ground is supposed to get warmer during this period and muggy and ashen in the atmosphere. You may need an arctic suit in northern climates if we have 100 hour nights or something.
13. a toilet get a small boating toilet with a supply of bags and ties. Throw the bags down the septic hole and cover with dirt.
14. Pu Keep water in jugs or a large tub, LED lights and car batteries 12v deep cell, or lithium batteries stack supplements, dried foods in sacks that will conform to the curved sides of dome. Tuck everything around you. There are good survival lists on the web.
15. Most importantly, you can build this thing after the grid goes down and others are in chaos. If you don’t ever need it, you can resell or reuse these common materials in other ways. Domes can be linked by
underground passages, you can sleep in one, keep watch in another. People can form groups. This will be a lot like camping in concrete tents, in really, really bad weather, and don’t forget to bring some good DNA along to repopulate the earth with. There are going to be some long cold nights.
16. Do not leave your delivery truck or trailer near your shelter, drive it a mile away and camo it with branches over tied down camo netting .
17. Every material of this plan should be purchased ahead of time and every step should be run through at least a couple of times, and remember, back-up your back-ups.
Please mention anything I forgot below along with any interesting variations, food preps, and any ideas for magnetic generators, etc. etc. I just didn’t see very many real shelter preparation plans out there, so I offer this starting point. I believe a good shelter can be purchased for under 1,500 dollars not including the food, trailer, clothing, tools, etc.
–Peace
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