All Discussions Tagged 'ZetaTalk' - Earth Changes and the Pole Shift2024-03-29T15:19:27Zhttps://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=ZetaTalk&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSparking soulstag:poleshift.ning.com,2024-02-13:3863141:Topic:11612582024-02-13T04:33:54.789ZGerard Zwaanhttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/GerardZwaan
<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em>My question is not about the pending pole shift, it is about the soul's transition. A new soul born as a human on earth has approx 70 years, (if survivng), to to determine it's orientation, STO, STS, undecided. I understand that a soul may experience 1000 lives before determing orientation. But a new soul born as a Zeta would have (aprox) 400 years to determine it's orientation. As human, the learing curve is great. Would a young soul, given the extended…</em></font></p>
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<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em>My question is not about the pending pole shift, it is about the soul's transition. A new soul born as a human on earth has approx 70 years, (if survivng), to to determine it's orientation, STO, STS, undecided. I understand that a soul may experience 1000 lives before determing orientation. But a new soul born as a Zeta would have (aprox) 400 years to determine it's orientation. As human, the learing curve is great. Would a young soul, given the extended life time and experience of more mature souls (such as the Zetas), have a direct and long lasting effect of the orienation choice made by the new soul born as a Zeta? Or do Zetas have a school house planet, like Earth, where young Z souls determine their orientation without the solidifying influence of a extended life span? And what about young Z souls born into a STS orientation? Further, do young Zetas reincarnate into human like species and visa verse? Our life time as humans is short, while other life times are long. What is the reasoning behind all this?</em></font></p>
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<p>Your confusion stems from a lack of understanding on the difference between 3rd density worlds and those of 4th density. 3rd density worlds are those where the stuff of souls can gather in an intelligent species and form into a new soul. This is called sparking a soul, when the challenge to that particular intelligent life is such that it presents a puzzle to the stuff of souls, else the young soul dissipates and aborts. The reason that the stuff of souls can spark a soul on 3rd density worlds is because the physical bodies on 3rd density worlds are heavy and slow. On 4th density worlds, the stuff of souls cannot get a grip, as it moves too fast in comparison to the stuff of souls, which wisps away. Once a soul has sparked in a 3rd density body, it continues in that form, finding another and another body to incarnate. Once ready to graduate to a 4th density world, the soul is strong enough to survive in a 4th density body, which is less heavy in comparison to the soul. We, the Zetas, had our 3rd density worlds, and were less intelligent than we are today, and did not have the life span we do today either. Our 3rd density experience was not unlike yours.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta571.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live written April 3, 2010</a></p> Identifying Service-to-Other/Service-to-Selftag:poleshift.ning.com,2023-11-21:3863141:Topic:11600402023-11-21T14:28:16.870ZGerard Zwaanhttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/GerardZwaan
<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em>A friend said that 90% of people suffer from some type of disturbance of neurosis, and 9% are balanced, but are subject to some change, and one% can be normal. Is this scientific fact, as we learn who is to be good or evil? Is mechanics of human conscience complex? As saberíamos who is Service to Others and Service to Self? Or the separation of evil and the good is automatic?</em></font></p>
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<p>Highly Service-to-Other souls may be…</p>
<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em>A friend said that 90% of people suffer from some type of disturbance of neurosis, and 9% are balanced, but are subject to some change, and one% can be normal. Is this scientific fact, as we learn who is to be good or evil? Is mechanics of human conscience complex? As saberíamos who is Service to Others and Service to Self? Or the separation of evil and the good is automatic?</em></font></p>
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<p>Highly Service-to-Other souls may be incarnated into humans who suffer from mental illness or have disease that affects their ability to express their concern for others. There are likewise highly Service-to-Self souls in such an incarnation, and their reaction to others around them may not look much different than the reaction of highly Service-to-Other souls incarnated in like circumstances. One cannot make assumptions based on physical disabilities. Likewise highly Service-to-Self souls may be incarnated into human bodies that are attractive, are raised in wealthy families that give them every advantage, and yet they do not concern themselves with others. A highly Service-to-Other soul in such a circumstance would maneuver to help others. Yet on the surface, they may appear similar to those who are highly Service-to-Self, as the Service-to-Self are adept at disguise. Thus, one should not assume, by surface physical appearance, the spiritual orientation of others. It is the actions that they are <em>able</em> to take that is the true criteria.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta424.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live written December 29, 2007</a></p> Spiritual lessonstag:poleshift.ning.com,2023-11-19:3863141:Topic:11596192023-11-19T09:45:12.876ZGerard Zwaanhttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/GerardZwaan
<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em>What type of "lessons" would beings from higher densities be returning to Earth to learn? I understand their main reason for returning is to help those during the coming shift, a sacarfice of sorts. But what could they possibly be learning from their incarnation back in 3rd density?</em></font></p>
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<p>Graduation into 4th Density Service-to-Other existence does not mean the entity has mastered their ability to interact with others…</p>
<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em>What type of "lessons" would beings from higher densities be returning to Earth to learn? I understand their main reason for returning is to help those during the coming shift, a sacarfice of sorts. But what could they possibly be learning from their incarnation back in 3rd density?</em></font></p>
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<p>Graduation into 4th Density Service-to-Other existence does not mean the entity has mastered their ability to interact with others completely. It means the entity thinks of others at least 50% of the time. Highly Service-to-Other entities can be vain if they found this assisted their chances in prior incarnations. They can have a tendency to hoard if they experienced starvation and want in their prior incarnations. They can be fearful, not wanting to take risks, even when the situation calls for it, and a lesson to be learned is to take that risk. They can have a tendency not to trust others, but to rely on the self to ensure a task gets done, and need to learn to rely on teammates more. There are an infinite number of lessons to be mastered.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta457.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live written June 7, 2008</a></p>
<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em>Can Zetas answer please (I'm Sorry for Bad English). Does the whole experience repeating in circles of lives, does the souls of higher density learning the same lesson as others at the same time or they have another lesson, the souls of 5th density or higher have their own kind of work they have to make?</em></font></p>
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<p>Lessons are many. Some entities have the same lesson before them almost endlessly, as they struggle with it. Meanwhile, they progress on other lessons.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live written November 28, 2009</a></p> Service-to-Self vs Service-to-Other countstag:poleshift.ning.com,2021-07-20:3863141:Topic:11427252021-07-20T11:49:47.288ZGerard Zwaanhttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/GerardZwaan
<blockquote><font color="#0000A0"><em>On July 1995, the Zetas said "The Earth, at close to 5 billion people, is approximately 25% Service-to-Other orientation, 7% Service-to-Self orientation, and 68% undecided. These percentages move about a bit." That was 26 years ago. The world's population has increased to nearly 8 billion people. The world is going through a lot of societal changes going into the pole shift and the transition to 4th Density. Can the Zetas give us an updated count on the…</em></font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#0000A0"><em>On July 1995, the Zetas said "The Earth, at close to 5 billion people, is approximately 25% Service-to-Other orientation, 7% Service-to-Self orientation, and 68% undecided. These percentages move about a bit." That was 26 years ago. The world's population has increased to nearly 8 billion people. The world is going through a lot of societal changes going into the pole shift and the transition to 4th Density. Can the Zetas give us an updated count on the souls of mankind? Are Unsparked souls sparking? Is the Star Child phenomenon on increase? Are there more advanced souls walk-ins? Are Undecided humans becoming Service-to-Others and are some becoming more selfish and leaning towards the Service-to-Self?<br/></em></font></blockquote>
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<p>In both<span> </span><a href="https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta388.htm">1995 and 2007</a>, when we last gave percentages, we stated that 7% of incarnating souls on Earth were firmly in the Service-to-Self. This percentage has significantly dropped to 4.6% because the population aged and died, and no new incarnations from the Service-to-Self pool have been allowed to occur as a rule. These souls have moved on to the prison planets that await them. There are few exceptions. Another incarnation might be allowed only to someone on the cusp, so they can make their final determination.<br/> <br/> <a href="https://www.zetatalk.com/density/d17.htm">In 1995</a><span> </span>we stated that 25% of the incarnated souls on Earth were firmly in the Service-to-Other orientation, but by 2007 this had grown to 33%. The Earth’s population had grown from 5 billion in 1995 to 6.5 billion in 2007. All in the Service-to-Other orientation who died and were allowed to reincarnate on Earth. But most of the increase was due to the presence of<span> </span><a href="https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/27ap2013.htm">Star Children</a>, who are either incarnating into newborns or stepping into the bodies of unsparked or undecided humans. At present the percentage of incarnating souls in the Service-to-Other orientation is 47%<br/> <br/> For many reasons the population on Earth will change in percentage as a result of the Pole Shift. We and other alien groups communicating to mankind estimated that 90% of the world's population would die as a result of the Pole Shift. Most live on the coastline or in river bottoms where fishing and boat transport is handy. Even if warned, they will not move to safety. Denial is in sway. Those that have or will move to safety are courageous Service-to-Other individuals. Thus, the population after the Pole Shift will be almost exclusively in the Service-to-Other.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2021.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for July 31, 2021</a></p> ZetaTalk: Golden Ruletag:poleshift.ning.com,2018-08-18:3863141:Topic:10930192018-08-18T16:46:50.933ZGerard Zwaanhttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/GerardZwaan
<h1><font size="3"><em><strong>written Sep 23, 2004</strong></em></font></h1>
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<h1><font size="3"><em><strong>written Sep 23, 2004</strong></em></font></h1>
<hr/><blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em>I am worried that a great many people are missing the spiritual and emotional survival aspects of Planet X. There is going to be a shift in consciousness into a new dimension, what can we do to prepare our souls for this change.? We need to be able to rid ourselves of fear in order to survive. Negative energies are just going to beget negative actions. People physically ready for the shift will be overwhelmed by the non-physical changes and although able to adapt in one aspect, are miles away from understanding the spiritual growth needed to make it through this change. What good is having enough food to survive when you still harbor fear and hate and are creating such as a result? The Zetas mention Service-to-Self versus Service-to-Others but how do we achieve this in reality. We are all selfish creatures by nature, when does our needs outweigh the needs of others. I understand that this is why we are here, to grow spiritually.</em></font></p>
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<p>To those intellectually examining the definition on spiritual orientation, and the rule that moving into one or the other camp requires many lifetimes of trial and error to grasp what living in that orientation means, the matter is anything but clear. We have stated that those in the Service-to-Other orientation are thinking of others at least as often as they are thinking of themselves, 50%, and that those in the Service-to-Self manage a fleeting thought about others only 5% of the time. What times are those? If a banker considers the starving in his community, giving a percentage of his profits directly to food purchases for them, a charity, does this have the same weight as if this banker gave this percentage of his profits to small businesses in order to hire the unemployed, thus reducing starvation perhaps for less but for a longer time? One must examine his<span> </span><em>motives</em>. The first move would seem purely humanitarian, yet if his<span> </span><em>motive</em><span> </span>is to increase business at his bank by getting publicity for his move, his motive is selfish, Service-to-Self. The second move would seem to be shrewd, to increase business activity in the community from which he might profit, but if his<span> </span><em>motive</em><span> </span>is truly to reduce starvation and despair in his community in the most effective way possible, the best use of his dollar, then this move is driven by Service-to-Other motives. From an intellectual standpoint, it is a quagmire.<span> </span><br/> <br/> In the simple words of Jesus, ‘<em>do unto others as you would have them do unto you</em>’. Jesus, Mohammed, and Buddha, Star Children all who came to leave a gift of clarity for mankind, all preached the same message. Equality, where ‘<em>the least of you</em>’ is considered on the same level as the self. Considering ones physical needs, for food and shelter, in a manner that balances concern for what others need, what the goat about to be slaughtered might feel, what the land over grazed or tilled into a dust bowl might need. Confusing, a quagmire of intellectual decisions, if left to the intellect alone. What these great preachers left with mankind was the suggestion that the answer lies in the<span> </span><em>heart</em>. Before you do something that will affect another, put yourself in that other’s<span> </span><em>place</em>, and imagine the consequences of your action. This is generally known as the Golden Rule, ‘<em>do unto others</em>’. Driven by the<span> </span><em>heart</em>, one will never make an errant decision from a spiritual standpoint. A man in agony over whether to share the meat from his last goat with his starving neighbors, when his own family is faint from hunger most of the time, will find his answer by placing himself in their perspective as well as his family's perspective. What sense of abandonment will his neighbors have, seeing his family feast when they are cramped and weak. What need to throw up walls against empathy for the neighbors will his family require in order to choke down the meal quickly, blinded to the neighbor's plight. He chooses sharing, seeing that damage to the<span> </span><em>soul</em><span> </span>is the greater danger, as the physical will in any case pass.<span> </span><br/> <br/> The reason that an average of 1,000 lifetimes is required for a young soul to reach its orientation decision is this complexity, as the man about to share his last goat with his neighbors, each a bite and none a full meal,<span> </span><em>knows</em><span> </span>from experience what the alternatives are. He has experienced abandonment, has forced himself to block empathy at some time in his past lives, and has experienced hunger to the point of starving to death, and thus can arrive at his decision. He has become, rather than a young soul, an old soul, wise. The Earth currently has a large number of very young souls, due to the population explosion, most so immature as to be considered infants, if an old and wise soul is to be considered aged. How does one explain to an infant that the others in the playpen must be considered? Where infants are often considered to be focused solely on themselves, they in fact respond to other infants put in the playpen, smiling at each other and vicariously enjoying the play of the other. Body language, the vibes that all living creatures exude and which can be read by another, are there. Thus, even infants can practice the Golden Rule, even on a first lifetime, and this is the lifeline to be used going into<span> </span><em>any</em><span> </span>event when sudden change and turmoil will ensue. This is our best advice.</p>
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<dt><font color="#0000A0"><em>Give as in yonder valley the myrtle breathes its fragrance into space. Through the hands of such as these God speaks. Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping. For only the hand of Life can contain your hearts. And stand together yet not too near together. ... Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth. Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness; For even as He loves the arrow that flies, so He loves also the bow.</em></font></dt>
<dd><font color="#0000A0"><strong>The Prophet,<span> </span></strong>by Kahlil Gibran</font></dd>
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<dt><font color="#0000A0"><em>Love may have a blooming going into the shift, as it ought, those with great love in their hearts responding to the realization that little else matters.</em></font></dt>
<dd><font color="#0000A0"><strong>ZetaTalk:<span> </span></strong></font><a href="http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t122.htm" target="_top">Personal Decisions</a></dd>
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<p>Source: <a href="http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta160.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ZetaTalk: Golden Rule</a></p> Service-to-Others stepstag:poleshift.ning.com,2018-08-16:3863141:Topic:10930112018-08-16T21:31:01.651ZGerard Zwaanhttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/GerardZwaan
<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em><span> </span>like many people have the strong desire to help other I find it makes me happy, but the world we live in your hands are tied without money. I am not financially able to help as much as I know I can, it dampens my spirit because there is so much of me that I want to give but I can't. I feel like I have a good work ethic and devotion, what to do with it? What can the zetas comment on this? Do zetas recruit people? How do they know where the…</em></font></p>
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<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em><span> </span>like many people have the strong desire to help other I find it makes me happy, but the world we live in your hands are tied without money. I am not financially able to help as much as I know I can, it dampens my spirit because there is so much of me that I want to give but I can't. I feel like I have a good work ethic and devotion, what to do with it? What can the zetas comment on this? Do zetas recruit people? How do they know where the good people (like Nancy) and how do you choose them?</em></font></p>
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<p>We, the Zetas, are aware of the thoughts of our contactees, as are the many lifeforms around the world who conduct visitations. Nancy is often asked how to be Service-to-Others, with many offering to help<span> </span><em>her<span> </span></em>in her work somehow. These individuals are missing the point, as the point is not to somehow climb on the bandwagon, joining a successful enterprise already in operation, but to be<span> </span><em>empathetic</em>.<span> </span><br/><br/>Service-to-Others is simply being able to put yourself in the shoes of others around you, and if you do this you will quickly see what you can do to help others! You talk about money, but do you have<span> </span><em>time</em>? Is there not someone in your neighborhood who is frail or old or disabled? Are there no orphans about needing more attention? Are there soup kitchens in your area that need volunteers? Just<span> </span><em>do</em><span> </span>it!</p>
<p>Source: <a href="https://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta474.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live</a></p> Dogmatag:poleshift.ning.com,2011-07-02:3863141:Topic:6248562011-07-02T08:52:12.710ZGerard Zwaanhttps://poleshift.ning.com/profile/GerardZwaan
<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em>The Zetas have repeatedly stated that those who cling to religious dogma tend to be "immature souls" (or leaning to STS). Can it really be true that wise, Service-to-Other, old souls are not found within those who adhere to organized religion? Related to this, can the Zetas specify whether it is the human mind or the soul within that grasps at religious beliefs? If it is the soul, I would imagine there could be a terrible and traumatic shock upon death…</em></font></p>
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<blockquote><p><font color="#0000A0"><em>The Zetas have repeatedly stated that those who cling to religious dogma tend to be "immature souls" (or leaning to STS). Can it really be true that wise, Service-to-Other, old souls are not found within those who adhere to organized religion? Related to this, can the Zetas specify whether it is the human mind or the soul within that grasps at religious beliefs? If it is the soul, I would imagine there could be a terrible and traumatic shock upon death and learning that such firmly held ideas are not truth. Or does the soul know better and thus have no illusions, despite what the human imagines during its life?</em></font></p>
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<p>Dogma comforts both the immature and those leaning to the Service-to-Self. Even though the soul may be aware of the afterlife, the reality of reincarnation, it goes along with the human and even drives the process. The reason is that <em>both</em> souls of the immature and those leaning to the Service-to-Self are comfortable when dogma is ruling the environment. Why is this so? The Service-to-Self, as we have explained, allow rules to replace an awareness of what others are <em>feeling</em>. On their worlds, their prison planets, if they carefully follow the rules they are less likely to get punished. Innovation is almost nil on these planets because innovation requires the right to have free thought. Mistakes are <em>often</em> made because a rule is followed at all costs. If this sounds like some environments on Earth, in human society, do not be surprised. <br/> <br/> For the spiritually immature, with barely sparked souls, life is confusing. They encounter situations the young soul has not encountered before, and are guessing at what direction or path to take. This creates anxiety, and dogma takes this anxiety away. If one follows the rules, one is rewarded, or at least one is promised a reward. Certainly if one follows the rules one is less likely to be punished by an overlord who is so focused on maintaining control that this become the only thing that matters. Military units and organized religions have this structure, with many rules and punishment for breaking the rules. Armies are marched to their deaths because the commanding officer feels he can do no wrong. Objection by the soldiers beneath them brings death for treason. Organized religion is just as harsh in their punishments for transgressions. <br/> <br/> Are there Service-to-Other souls within military units and organize religion? Of course, doing service! We have mentioned that highly evolved Service-to-Other spirits are attending to prison planets, attending to those souls who realize the error of their ways and want to be returned to 3rd density worlds where they can have a second chance. In like manner, those in service in military units or within organized religion are trying to make a difference, particular at those points where a choice is to be made. They hope to be in a position to give counseling when there is a choice between empathy or mindlessly following a rule.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/02jy2011.htm" target="_blank">ZetaTalk for July 2, 2011</a></p>
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